Tuesday, November 8th, QOD

Originally Posted By: ajalowsky
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Today


Originally Posted By: jpope
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334.23 In Accessible Attics. The installation of cable in accessible attics or roof spaces shall also comply with 320.23.


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320.23 In Accessible Attics. Type AC cables in accessible attics or roof spaces shall be installed as specified in 320.23(A) and (B).

(A) Where Run Across the Top of Floor Joists. . . .Where space is not accessible by permanent stairs or ladders, protection shall be required within 1.8 m (6ft) of the nearest edge of the scuttle hole or attic entrance.



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Originally Posted By: kmcmahon
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Jeff,


Do you have an online or computer generated source for the NEC that you copy from?



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Originally Posted By: jpope
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Not yet Kevin. The one I have does not let me copy from it (it’s on disk). I can’t even save it to my hard drive. icon_confused.gif



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Originally Posted By: cradan
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Is it just me, or was the actual wording of this particular QOD a bit screwy?


I don't have a current NEC; my crib notes (Code Check/Electrical) simply refer to the 2002 NEC, specifically {334.23}, indicating that NM cabling should be protected within 6' of an attic scuttle...no further information on whether the attic is accessed by means of a permanent ladder/stair, or otherwise. Thanks to Jeff, I can see that {334.23} also implies compliance with {320.23A/B}, which further confused me.

So, I ask myself...

1.) does a pull-down with installed stairs qualify as "permanent", and...
2.) when, exactly, would it be o.k. to run NM across the top of floor joists with or without protection in an attic, i.e. if it's accessible by permanent, or only by temporary means? If it's plain inaccessible (in which case, this conversation would be meaningless in the context of a purely visual, non-invasive inspection)? If it's more or less than 6' (1.8m) away from the scuttle/access?

I need an Advil.


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Originally Posted By: Aimee Jalowsky
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The answer is???


6'

Chris - You need this along with two asprin.
http://www.nachi.org/tedescobook.htm


Originally Posted By: jjackson
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Kevin


I downloaded a version of it when the NEC Forum was up and running and have access to it on both my home and work computers. I can try and e mail you a copy of it.



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