Service Entrance

[DSuelflow]

Does anyone have a problem with this or is it just me?

http://www.nachi.org/forum/attachmen...1&d=1137850202

[Gerry Beaumont]

You are not alone

Personally I hate seeing the SEC tied up with the downspouts, but would need to go digging thorugh codes to cite an issue.

However there is clearly no drip loop on any of the conductors whicH I would report in a heartbeat.

Regards

Gerry

[Joe Farsetta]

I agree with Gerry on all points.

Besides, it is not our job to cite code violations; that is the job of the AHJ. If this installation were done in my neck of the woods, the AJH in this case would be the electric company. They have the final say. If they permanently installed the splices (bugs) and installed an electrical meter, then they would have blessed it.

An inspector was recently sued up here for pointing out electrical "code issues" at an expensive house that had been on the market for over a year. The first real offer came in on the home, and the inspection was performed. After citing numerous electrical "code issues", and the seller disputing them, the deal fell through.

There were no back-up offers. The buyer relied on the inspection report, and felt that code issues equalled safety issues. The seller produced the electrical inspection certificate, and certificate of occupancy. If the electrical inspector, utility company installer, and building inspector take the stand as expert witnesses, and dispute the inspector's findings... that inspector is likely to lose.

[Pest Guy]

The drip loop is in place and would work well here. The problem is that the SE cable is rubbing against the downspout and over time will develop a hole in it.

You are not a code official and should not reference a code violation. This is a safety issue and that is how you report it.

[jtedesco1]

I agree with Mr. Beaumount.

I would like to see a close up of the "weatherhead" if possible.

Looks like the siding is new, and may be the reason for the change in the point of attachment?

Code references can be given by the AHJ since HI's don't do code, according to some in the industry.

[David P. Valley]

Originally Posted by Pest Guy

The drip loop is in place and would work well here.

Pest guy,

I see a drip loop on the lower cable only. Not all three.

So in my mind, Gerry is correct.

[Joe D. Funderburk]

This brings to mind a question: who is responsible for drip loops, SE cable problems, mast problems, etc. I have been told that the utility is responsible for all issues prior to the meter, but I'm not positive that is correct.

[Jason A. Sieg, CMI]

When I worked for an electrican here in MI, If an upgrade was done it was our job to replace the SE drop... that is from the split bolts to the meter. That is what I was told by the boss, I dont know if that was true but if the boss was paying you to do it...

He had two guys that did that part of the job.

[David P. Valley]

Last year I found several SE cables that were not attached to the house. In one situation, my client called the municipal (Mass. electric) right there from the inspection site, to see if he could schedule them to re-install a SE cable that came loose.

The municipal had stated that they could attach it but at a cost, due to them not being responsible for anything past the street connection. They stated that the homeowner was responsible for any electrical supply cable from the street connection.

I believe the municipalities are all different as far as who is responsible for what section of the SE.

[Larry D. Kage]

Originally Posted by Pest Guy

...the SE cable is rubbing against the downspout and over time will develop a hole in it.

...then it becomes heat tape to melt the ice buildup ...oh, NC...maybe not.


Hey, Pest Guy, why don't you use your name like you do on other boards?

[Joe Farsetta]

Typically, the homeowner owns everything from the bugs to the receptacle, and everything in between. The power company owns the meter, which is installed in your meter pan.

[David P. Valley]

Originally Posted by jfarsetta

Typically, the homeowner owns everything from the bugs to the receptacle, and everything in between. The power company owns the meter, which is installed in your meter pan.

As I stated, but I used the term "street connection". Thanks for the proper terminology Joe.

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