ASHI Thread of the Week

[dharris]

I wonder Can someone be sued for putting someones post out in the public view without their permission in order to harm them.
I don't know.. I would suggest asking the six ASHI members that posts are posted here by busshy. or ask Nick he's the one that sues everybody and the one that would be sued in this case. 2 or 3 of them are ex nachi members

Dan I don't have a clue who you are or who you think you are, but if you're not a member of nachi then what are you doing here. Who pissed in your oatmeal?
Nick... Years ago.
If you last very long in this profession you'll also figure that out.

If you're special please send me an autograph,if not then just SHUT-UP
Sure no problem. To get the most for your investment Just Send me 289.00 [ cash only] in a self addressed envelope
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[nwagner]

Whomever brews the Kool Aid at ASHI does it right for those select few!


Education- don't make me laugh! Hundreds of dollars to listen to a vendor in bed with ASHI who knows little about my profession speak about something hardly relevant. Yeah, that's how you lead the industry! Get a clue ASHI, people come to NACHI for the MARKETING and for VAST access to educational resources from and for home inspectors. Wait, I can get educational resources from ASHI but only if I pay through the corn hole for it because ASHI is so committed to controlling, oops, I meant advancing the industry.

NACHI is the overnight membership organization? Oh yeah, I did have to wait to get my ASHI membership. But its not like I had to do anything special to get it. So NACHI is bad simply because they don't have DMV-inspired service? Shame on Nick for the convenience!

ASHI turnover, just beautiful! Its no secret why over half their newbie new members don't last that first year. Among other things, ASHI fails to provide them with what they need to succeed such as access to quality education, marketing support (oh wait, I could buy my marketing from one of those ASHI bed partners and be like the rest of the HI's in my area that do so with little success) and their aristocracy based on "experience". Its funny how the numbers regarding Full Membership turnover wasn't mentioned. After all, many of them are leaving because they realize that all they get for their dues is a lame duck organization who would rather jockey for power within the industry rather than attempt to better it.

[klott]

Originally Posted by dharris

I wonder Can someone be sued for putting someones post out in the public view without their permission in order to harm them.
I don't know.. I would suggest asking the six ASHI members that posts are posted here by busshy. or ask Nick he's the one that sues everybody and the one that would be sued in this case. 2 or 3 of them are ex nachi members

Dan I don't have a clue who you are or who you think you are, but if you're not a member of nachi then what are you doing here. Who pissed in your oatmeal?
Nick... Years ago.
If you last very long in this profession you'll also figure that out.

If you're special please send me an autograph,if not then just SHUT-UP
Sure no problem. To get the most for your investment Just Send me 289.00 [ cash only] in a self addressed envelope
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Crash & Burned Just wanted to see if I could get the whites of eyes! You're to good for me. Can you see my white flag waving?

[nwagner]

Nick wants NACHI to be the Voice of the Home Inspection Profession. Do you really want Nick speaking and representing your profession? I don't!

Is there anyone else fit to be "The Voice of the Home Inspection Profession"? Ask me or virtually any other HI who is the president of ASHI, NAHI (I was surprised to find out their door are still open!) and the other wannabe "Industry Voices". I don't know! Why is that? Simple, none are industry leaders.

I don't agree with everything Nick is about but if there is such a title as "The Voice of the Home Inspection Profession", he already has it! Nobody else can lay claim to founding a 10,000 + member HI organization that monopolizes the industry's internet share and provides a flatout overwhelming amount of resources that are free or nearly free. Unlike all the wannabe voices, Nick is an interesting character with the passion and the skills that have advanced our profession. Love him or hate him, its very difficult to argue that anyone else deserves the imaginary title "The Voice of the Home Inspection Profession".

So get over it ASHI, you don't have what it takes and likely won't have what it takes to be "The Voice" again. All you have is a brand, a superficial brand that is squandering its credibility for the selfish purpose of surviving. If you have any respect for the industry, pull the plug and develop a new organization- one which truly serves the industry. Until then, quit speaking on my behalf and quit lying to the public that your brand insures the best home inspector.
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[Frank M. Carrio, CMI]

Originally Posted by nwagner

Is there anyone else fit to be "The Voice of the Home Inspection Profession"? Ask me or virtually any other HI who is the president of ASHI, NAHI (I was surprised to find out their door are still open!) and the other wannabe "Industry Voices". I don't know! Why is that? Simple, none are industry leaders.

I don't agree with everything Nick is about but if there is such a title as "The Voice of the Home Inspection Profession", he already has it! Nobody else can lay claim to founding a 10,000 + member HI organization that monopolizes the industry's internet share and provides a flatout overwhelming amount of resources that are free or nearly free. Unlike all the wannabe voices, Nick is an interesting character with the passion and the skills that have advanced our profession. Love him or hate him, its very difficult to argue that anyone else deserves the imaginary title "The Voice of the Home Inspection Profession".

So get over it ASHI, you don't have what it takes and likely won't have what it takes to be "The Voice" again.

All you have is a brand, a superficial brand that is squandering its credibility for the selfish purpose of surviving. If you have any respect for the industry, pull the plug and develop a new organization- one which truly serves the industry. Until then, quit speaking on my behalf and quit lying to the public that your brand insures the best home inspector.

Well written and to the point. Thank You!

[nwagner]

If we are going to have new people come into our INDUSTRY (not profession YET) then we need to make sure that we get to teach them and show them the right way to do the job. An alternative is to let them join NACHI and be incompetent.

Its too bad your lousy attempt to accomplish this is by feeding them to the ASHI bed partner vendors for education and then provide them "mentoring" from a dinosaur who just happened to have performed enough inspection to be considered a "veteran". Yes, that is much better than sending them to NACHI, were they receive access to most of the educational resources they need directly from NACHI, most free of charge and much more insightful than those ridiculously priced slabs of paper that ASHI calls textbooks. We also have an environment that actually fosters development, instead of one which is so concerned about posturing that developing competence is an afterthough.

Since when does being an ASHI member insure competence? There are several "Full" ASHI members in my area with years of "experience" and I inspect circles around them, despite being a HI for less than a year with less than the magical number of 250 inspections. Thanks for the bang up job ASHI, it was them that made it difficult to break into the business but it will be because of them that I will dominate my service area within a few years. Keep up the good work!

[nwagner]

What I don't get is who says ASHI should be the voice of the profession? Did NAHI or NACHI members? What if some non-ASHI type just decided that they DIDN'T want to have ASHI be their voice. Could it be that perhaps it's why they're not affliated with us?

Sorry - but who comes up with this stuff? I have to think that if someone else wanted to be the voice of home inspectors that ASHI would be screaming mad. Give me a break.

Eric Barker
Barrington, IL

Its nice to know that someone in ASHI is thinking of the profession rather than thinking for it. I tip my hat to you fine sir.

[nwagner]

Originally Posted by dharris

If Quality is directly associated with a dollar figure why does nachi/ nick have to give out free and discounted memberships and free CE to get new nachi members ??

Its called MARKETING, you should try figuring it out. Like virtually any service or product out there, not everyone understands us nor is everyone inclined to try us. Offering freebies is an incentive that pays off in the end with paying patronage. I'm sure ASHI would do the same if they actually had something to offer and if they could draw in more newbie HI to pay for it...

[nwagner]

Originally Posted by dharris

I also accessed the ASHI site. All The topics that I read including the one that Jim posted is just an example of true HI professionals trying to raise the level of our profession, posting some of the garbage from the members only is like most of the garbage on the open side of the bulletin board.

[nwagner]

A 1200 member professional association might as well pack up the tent.

Sounds like a good idea to me! Sounds like an inevitability given your current lust for the newbie HI's being churned out of the mills known as Home Inspector Schools, your penchant for controlling the industry and your belief that everything you "provide" has to be either through a vendor or provided at a king's ransom. It would be nice if NAHI had the same concept but I guess they are during just fine as long as they can sue NACHI for something.

[Joe Farsetta]

I just like the fact that a NACHI member has decided to post for all, what many of us has known about and read about, for some time now.

There was no righteous indignation on the part of Dan H when he has known that there are many ASHI members who hack this very message board with passwords of NACHI members.

Now the shoe is on the other foot.

Dan, you'd be doing NACHI a huge favor if you were to post all those e-mails you received from NACHI members. Of course, you'll need to include their names and the dates, or we might believe you fabricated them. The question is whether or not you have the courage of your convictions. Of course a 100 compleints out of more than 9000 members aint much. And, if they think NACHI sucks so much, they can always leave the org. Will they? probably not.

If these e-mails are too much for you to sort, then please forward them to Deanna Willis or Lisa Endza, with my blessing. You can also send them to me.

Thanks!

[Blaine Wiley]

Originally Posted by jfarsetta

There was no righteous indignation on the part of Dan H when he has known that there are many ASHI members who hack this very message board with passwords of NACHI members.

Now the shoe is on the other foot.

Exactly!

[nwagner]

Originally Posted by jfarsetta

I just like the fact that a NACHI member has decided to post for all, what many of us has known about and read about, for some time now.

I guess I should clarify that what I have posted are my observations (which may be shared by many NACHI members but are not necessarily the opinion of all NACHI members). The essence of NACHI is strong enough that it doesn't require a "unified" voice, an army of supporters to back it up and censorship to maintain it.

[Frank M. Carrio, CMI]

Originally Posted by nwagner

I guess I should clarify that what I have posted are my observations (which may be shared by many NACHI members but are not necessarily the opinion of all NACHI members). The essence of NACHI is strong enough that it doesn't require a "unified" voice, an army of supporters to back it up and censorship to maintain it.

Nick,
I would say that you are voicing the opinion of about 99.99% of NACHI members. In all reality I do not think that even 1% of our members agree with anything that Dan Harris has to say.

He is a low life that comes out and stabs you in the back and then slithers back under the rock where he has been hiding. He ALWAYS speaks out of both sides of his mouth and cannot be trusted.

His main objective is to come and vilify NACHI, Nick, our members, and slander and ridicule anything that we do.

So, I say .... He can go pound sand!

Dan Harris, and his cohorts are a perfect example of why the NACHI BB should be moderated. If you visit ANY Professional BB you will see that a puke like him would not last 10-seconds without being booted off, and rightfully so!

It is my opinion that you are doing a Good Job and I find that your posts and rebuttals are like a breath of fresh air.

We need more members like you. Keep up the Good work!

[Ted Allen]

I would say that you are voicing the opinion of about 99.99% of NACHI members. In all reality I do not think that even 1% of our members agree with anything that Dan Harris has to say.

Dan has one green square that says otherwise. Why not turn on your reputation Frank? Remember Non-members such as myself may note vote for rep.

Dan is generally well trusted , how about you Frank? I would bet you have more red's than the Kremlin.

OK, that being said I think Dan is being bias towards the ASHI MO postings as he has been in agreement with all of the NACHI MO postings. So, what gives Dan fair is fair or no?