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Old 2/11/08, 10:33 PM
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Remember, it was you who were removed. It was you who asked to come back, and were allowed to return. It was you who were kicked out again.
I see now, dharris is a two time looser with a chip on his shoulder. It explains a lot.



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Old 2/11/08, 10:39 PM
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I see now, dharris is a two time looser with a chip on his shoulder. It explains a lot.
Truth is, all you have to do is search in the old forum.
I never came back or tried to come back.
When I was kicked out, I respected that decision made by the nachi committee.
Nick is the one that tried to reverse that decision made by a nachi committee.

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Old 2/11/08, 11:38 PM
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You cant seem to recognize the fact that MANY iNACHI and ASHI members wold and could sit next to each other at a bar and share a cold one and some genuine laughs.
Joe. I do just that 6-8 times a year, could not agree more with that, when your talking AZ members.

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You cant seem to get past the fact that THIS org has some great folks in it. You cant seem to get past the fact that mant inspectors actually LIKE iNACHI, and believe it can benefit them personally and professionally.
Same as above, only difference is the ones that I know do not practice bashing, or name calling of other inspectors, nor do they practice nicks policys of lieing about other HI orgs, or HI , or if that doesn't work discredit them on an open to the public BB, just to succeed.

Instead they do as all other eithical professionals do, go out and do the best job they can for their customers, and grow their business from that.


Good current example is in the commerical section where nick is trying to get control of Calif. inspectors, guess he's not having much luck, seeing his next step is discredit and bash creia ..

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Old 2/12/08, 12:46 AM
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Good current example is in the commerical section where nick is trying to get control of Calif. inspectors, guess he's not having much luck, seeing his next step is discredit and bash creia ..
Anyone who steals $135.00 from me including shipping for a 1 page commercial SOP & 1 page of my own definitions discredits themselves. I'm only warning my members with http://www.nachi.org/forum/f53/warning-avoid-creia-rip-off-california-real-estate-inspection-association-thieves-25474/

I wish someone would have warned me about the rip-off scam they are running.



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Old 2/12/08, 12:47 AM
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P.S. I apologize to ASTM for calling their commercial SOP the worst ever written.



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Old 2/12/08, 12:55 AM
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Anyone who steals $135.00 from me including shipping for a 1 page commercial SOP & 1 page of my own definitions discredits themselves. I'm only warning my members with http://www.nachi.org/forum/f53/warning-avoid-creia-rip-off-california-real-estate-inspection-association-thieves-25474/

I wish someone would have warned me about the rip-off scam they are running.
Of course we all know if nick says it's true it must be true.
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Old 2/12/08, 5:09 AM
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Truth is, all you have to do is search in the old forum.
I never came back or tried to come back.
When I was kicked out, I respected that decision made by the nachi committee.
Dan,
I always try to ignore you because I see you as a waste of time but ......
I want to clear a few things up.
1. You were kicked out of NACHI by a majority vote of the COE committee.

Nick is the one that tried to reverse that decision made by a nachi committee.
2. The COE Committee is responsible for reinstatement.

3. Nick is the founder / owner of NACHI and he certainly has the right to ask the COE committee to reconsider your case.

Your constant and unrelenting attacks against our founder, our Association, and against individual members have never ceased.

All of our committee members are aware of this.

If and when Nick presents his request to our committee all of YOUR actions and comments will be duly noted and will weigh in our decision.



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Old 2/12/08, 10:22 AM
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2. The COE Committee is responsible for reinstatement.

3. Nick is the founder / owner of NACHI and he certainly has the right to ask the COE committee to reconsider your case.

Your constant and unrelenting attacks against our founder, our Association, and against individual members have never ceased.

All of our committee members are aware of this.

If and when Nick presents his request to our committee all of YOUR actions and comments will be duly noted and will weigh in our decision.
I never disputed that or thought any different

I'm still waiting to hear from ASHI, that their policy, to get new members is,
ASHI members shall ignore all public bashing, backstabbing, name calling, and lies about other inspectors, or HI orgs. made by the owner, and members of this org.
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Maybe that memo will come today.
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Old 2/12/08, 11:43 AM
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In all truth, members of the American Society of Home Inspectors (ASHI) who are secure in their own strengths pay little regard to our few detractors. We have had them long before Mr. Harris has joined the association, and will have them long after he has left.

I would tend to agree with NACHI members who have implied that the majority of Mr. Harris's anger and frustration stems from the fact that he was rejected by your association. Perhaps this is why he feels the need to overstate, fabricate and inflate his perceived value of membership in ASHI.

I will admit that Mr. Gromicko has angered some folks in the past, but ASHI leaders have recently come to see the need to emulate....not detract from...NACHI. There are so many things that NACHI is doing right that, had we known then what we know now, could have been implemented by ASHI a decade ago and totally precluded the need for a NACHI.

We are learning from you.

Hopefully, Mr. Gromicko will continue to allow dual membership for it is a real benefit having NACHI members (and their fresh ideas) attending ASHI meetings and training events.

These are my personal opinions. Officially, the leadership of my association is bent upon your destruction. I don't want to mislead you on that. But the rank-and-file ASHI inspector is right with you and we know that whatever good we see coming from our leadership, comes as a result of their need to compete with you.

Keep up the good work, NACHI. We are counting on you.
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Old 2/12/08, 2:08 PM
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IOfficially, the leadership of my association is bent upon your destruction. I don't want to mislead you on that. But the rank-and-file ASHI inspector is right with you and we know that whatever good we see coming from our leadership, comes as a result of their need to compete with you.
Charlie (er, I mean Frank),

Are you part of the ASHI leadership?

If not (or even if you are) can you should proof of the above quote?


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Old 2/12/08, 2:13 PM
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I'd say Mr. Griswald's posts are just a verifiable as your's Mr. Wehavenoideawhoyouare.



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Old 2/12/08, 3:50 PM
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I'd say Mr. Griswald's posts are just a verifiable as your's Mr. Wehavenoideawhoyouare.
Thank you, Mr. Larson.

I read almost all of the message boards that have to do with home inspection and many more that have to do with construction specialites (the latter is where I write most of my posts). I am familiar with the amusing manner in which many of these message boards treat their guests and how rude some of them can be when challenged.

If you ever get the chance, go to a place called "inspection news" and read how each of the "regulars" try to outdo each other in impressing each other. There, you will find ASHI members held in the same low regard as NACHI members for no other reason than their self appointed head man, Jerry Peck, was banned from both - I am told.

But the greatness of this message board and the reason it far surpasses all of the others is that you actually allow people like myself and Mr. Beefperson to visit you and express ourselves.

These expressions of different views...from everything as our views about different associations to the different ways of allowing a double tap in an electrical service panel...accumulates to become a true and complete encyclopedia of knowledge. This is not just one man's thoughts on a topic like "inspector journal" or a collection of Mr. Peck's pontifications like at "inspection news". We also learn here the different way of thinking about things as much as we do the different way of doing things.

The most excitement and immediate responses to posts on the ASHI board is when a member (guests are not allowed to post) spells something wrong.

These folks who come over here and harass you....using ASHI as their sword....are not half the inspectors that you are. Never let them discourage you from keeping your board open to everyone.

Thanks for letting me share that.
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Old 2/12/08, 8:13 PM
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2. The COE Committee is responsible for reinstatement.

3. Nick is the founder / owner of NACHI and he certainly has the right to ask the COE committee to reconsider your case.

Your constant and unrelenting attacks against our founder, our Association, and against individual members have never ceased.

All of our committee members are aware of this.

If and when Nick presents his request to our committee all of YOUR actions and comments will be duly noted and will weigh in our decision.
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I never disputed that or thought any different

I'm still waiting to hear from ASHI, that their policy, to get new members is,
ASHI members shall ignore all public bashing, backstabbing, name calling, and lies about other inspectors, or HI orgs. made by the owner, and members of this org.
Dan,
This little crybaby attitude while predictable and not very amusing does not address the issue.

The fact of the matter is ........ when you "fire on NACHI" you should expect "return fire"!

Nothing more, and nothing less!
  • In case you have not noticed this "one-way street" has been closed for quite some time.
It used to be that you could come to the NACHI bulletin board and rant and rave about how great ASHI was and how unfair and lousy NACHI is and no one stood up to you.

Those days are long past!

Maybe that memo will come today.
I would like to clear a few things up.

1. If Nick were to ask the COE committee to reinstate you I am positive that we would do so without hesitation.
{Nick is a terrific guy and we have faith in him. We would not want to hurt his feelings.}


2. Your reinstatement would not nullify the NACHI code of ethics.

3. With the NACHI code of ethics still in effect it would not be long before you would be in violation and would be justifiably kicked out yet once again!


If Nick were to ask for your reinstatement I would do one thing and one thing only.........
  • I would start a pool to see how long it would take you to violate our code of ethics.
  • Personally, I don't think you would last seven days without being kicked out again.
But then again that is just my opinion based on all the hate filled and vindictive comments that you have posted and continue to post on our message board.

I will say one thing for you Danny boy ..... all of your ranting and raving at is GOOD for the NACHI bulletin board!
It just keeps those "hits" coming, and coming, and coming, and coming!


Keep it up!

Heck you never know we might just have to start paying you!



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In all truth, members of the American Society of Home Inspectors (ASHI) who are secure in their own strengths pay little regard to our few detractors. We have had them long before Mr. Harris has joined the association, and will have them long after he has left.

I would tend to agree with NACHI members who have implied that the majority of Mr. Harris's anger and frustration stems from the fact that he was rejected by your association. Perhaps this is why he feels the need to overstate, fabricate and inflate his perceived value of membership in ASHI.

I will admit that Mr. Gromicko has angered some folks in the past, but ASHI leaders have recently come to see the need to emulate....not detract from...NACHI. There are so many things that NACHI is doing right that, had we known then what we know now, could have been implemented by ASHI a decade ago and totally precluded the need for a NACHI.

We are learning from you.

Hopefully, Mr. Gromicko will continue to allow dual membership for it is a real benefit having NACHI members (and their fresh ideas) attending ASHI meetings and training events.

These are my personal opinions. Officially, the leadership of my association is bent upon your destruction. I don't want to mislead you on that. But the rank-and-file ASHI inspector is right with you and we know that whatever good we see coming from our leadership, comes as a result of their need to compete with you.

Keep up the good work, NACHI. We are counting on you.
So when can we expect you to join NACHI?
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Old 2/12/08, 8:20 PM
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So when can we expect you to join NACHI?
Hopefully, he will do the right thing and leave ASHI first. If he is genuine in his feelings regarding them, he will immediately cease his financial support.



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