Another "informed" agent ignores NACHI

[Greg Keene, CPI]

This article appeared in the Sunday Denver Post - I sent the link to Nick in hopes he can educate this gentlemen - he writes alot of real estate stuff every week -

Please see Page 2R in Sunday, December 13, 2009 issue of The Denver Post

[Steven C. Waskewicz]

What does this mean, when I click on your link?

[Nick Gromicko]

Greg, I can't open your link, however YOU should call him. YOU are an inspector in his area. Try to get him to interview YOU or have him do a story about something YOU are an expert in. I'd be happy if no one ever printed InterNACHI in a real estate story again if it meant they mentioned YOU. Don't promote InterNACHI ever, we have nothing to sell the public. Promote YOU. InterNACHI wants YOU to get the publicity. You might want to offer to write a column of YOUR local paper. Here, use these articles. They are all yours: www.nachi.org/articles.htm

[Greg Keene, CPI]

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Sorry - try this - just read the first article at the top -
Nick - My local paper? - I know you get the Denver Post up in Boulder - and this article wasn't about me - it was about all the NACHI members in CO. And if he is syndicated it goes all over - that is why I sent it to you - He mentions ASHI and NAHI, not a particular inspector - his advice says hire someone from ASHI or NAHI to get an inspection - that is what burned me - the organizational endorsement.

[Bob Elliott]

I was looking through the archives and now see it is just an advertisement.
He can say what he wants.

[Erol Kartal]

Successful inspectors often have the characteristics of a good salesperson. Selling your affiliation to a client instead of selling YOU is often an indication of self doubt.

[Greg Keene, CPI]

Erol - self doubt is NOT something I suffer from - I close 8 of 10 calls even after I tell them I am one of the most expensive - but if they check your web site and it says NACH, they don't call, or if they look at the ASHI or NAHI site for an insepector, then they don't call - And it really isn't an ad - he writes quite often in the whole real estate section - it is the advertisement section for real estate - like the want ads - people still read and pay attention.

[Erol Kartal]

Greg,

I don't recall mentioning your name in my post. I'm trying to get some of the newer members to overcome the affiliation barrier. If buyers are not calling because of a logo on a web site they sound like trouble from the get go. Agents in specific areas may not call without an ASHI logo but in my opinion, so what?

[Bob Elliott]

Originally Posted by ekartal

Greg,

I don't recall mentioning your name in my post. I'm trying to get some of the newer members to overcome the affiliation barrier. If buyers are not calling because of a logo on a web site they sound like trouble from the get go. Agents in specific areas may not call without an ASHI logo but in my opinion, so what?

Hey just put down "Inspected to ASHI and the even higher NACHI SOP".

[Nick Gromicko]

Sounds like you should write a letter to the editor (great opportunity) , but after you are done explaining (like I have to over a million REALTORs) that ASHI is a known diploma mill that anyone can join online in 30 seconds or less with nothing more than a credit card, try to push YOUR inspection business (not your association). At least get your company name in there with you as President.

There really are only 2 types of inspection trade associations if you ask me (and they are opposites): Those that use the association's money to promote their members... and those that use their member's money to promote the association.

Heck, 1/2 our websites don't even mention InterNACHI anywhere on them.

[Erol Kartal]

Originally Posted by belliott

Hey just put down "Inspected to ASHI and the even higher NACHI SOP".

I use to get quite a bit of work from the ASHI inspector locator because I was the only listing for my zip code. However, I don't recall ever getting an inspection because I had a logo on my site. Logos in my opinion are great for attracting a certain type of buyer. What that type is I don't really know.

[mnahrgang]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Sounds like you should write a letter to the editor (great opportunity) , but after you are done explaining (like I have to over a million REALTORs) that ASHI is a known diploma mill that anyone can join online in 30 seconds or less with nothing more than a credit card, try to push YOUR inspection business (not your association). At least get your company name in there with you as President.

There really are only 2 types of inspection trade associations if you ask me (and they are opposites): Those that use the association's money to promote their members... and those that use their member's money to promote the association.

Heck, 1/2 our websites don't even mention InterNACHI anywhere on them.

Nick, something you just don't get.

Sometimes by promoting the association you DO promote the members. Especially in areas where the other association has brainwashed the public and their advisers (agents) that they should NOT hire an inspector unless he/she is ASHI.

By not doing so, you HURT your members in those areas. I can promote me until the cows come home, but for every inspection I book, there are 200 out there that never call because I am not on the ASHI list...

[James E. Braun, CMI]

Sad but true!

[Nick Gromicko]

Well, I agree, there are old bitties out there who are vocal about using diploma mill ASHI members. I leave them alone for the most part until their inspector gets a complaint (InterNACHI fields all the consumer complaints regardless of inspector association). Then I hammer the old bitty by offering to help the client sue the agent for negligent referral. Any agent that fails to check to see if the inspector is a member of a known diploma mill is guilty of negligent referral and the founder of the world's largest inspection association is willing to say so, under oath. Word's pretty much out. We now have many more agents fearful of referring a member of diploma mill ASHI than there are old bitties that do. That's all I really wanted. To put the odds in InterNACHI's favor and make anyone who joins ASHI lose more jobs than he/she gains from that membership. With each new complaint, and each new settlement, the odds get even better.

The agents that look for the ASHI logo to avoid it... you never hear about.

I've sent more emails with the link to ASHI's 30-second online application https://www.homeinspector.org/join/a...n/default.aspx than ASHI ever will. Agents have a professional and fiduciary duty to their clients to recommend the best inspectors based solely on merit: www.nachi.org/agentduty.htm Any agent who fails that duty should pay for all the repairs to fix the defect that their inspector missed. That's my story, I stick to it in deposition after deposition, and word has spread.

I've been in this business for a couple decades now and it used to be that everyone recommended ASHI. I was a member myself. But this litigious society we live in, combined with my email campaigns, have made the few old bitties left... vastly outnumbered by the agents who like to keep their money.

[mnahrgang]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Well, I agree, there are old bitties out there who are vocal about using diploma mill ASHI members. I leave them alone for the most part until their inspector gets a complaint (InterNACHI fields all the consumer complaints regardless of inspector association). Then I hammer the old bitty by offering to help the client sue the agent for negligent referral. Any agent that fails to check to see if the inspector is a member of a known diploma mill is guilty of negligent referral and the founder of the world's largest inspection association is willing to say so, under oath. Word's pretty much out. We now have many more agents fearful of referring a member of diploma mill ASHI than there are old bitties that do. That's all I really wanted. To put the odds in InterNACHI's favor and make anyone who joins ASHI lose more jobs than he/she gains from that membership. With each new complaint, and each new settlement, the odds get even better.

The agents that look for the ASHI logo to avoid it... you never hear about.

I've sent more emails with the link to ASHI's 30-second online application https://www.homeinspector.org/join/a...n/default.aspx than ASHI ever will. Agents have a professional and fiduciary duty to their clients to recommend the best inspectors based solely on merit: www.nachi.org/agentduty.htm Any agent who fails that duty should pay for all the repairs to fix the defect that their inspector missed. That's my story, I stick to it in deposition after deposition, and word has spread.

I've been in this business for a couple decades now and it used to be that everyone recommended ASHI. I was a member myself. But this litigious society we live in, combined with my email campaigns, have made the few old bitties left... vastly outnumbered by the agents who like to keep their money.

Funny... I know you believe this. But you should really jump on a plane and do some office visits out here. It's not a few "old bitties". It's the ODD agent who even knows that there are other inspector groups than ASHI.