Another reason dishwasher covers should be removed.

[ROBERT W. NEWLAND, JR.]

Originally Posted by jjonas

Robert,
I like what I can see of your tool case. Care to share a full view image?
Jeff

Hey Jeff. I'm away now but will take a picture of it and post later. It's a Pelican case with cut-outs for my more expensive tools. After leaving two moisture meters behind I had to come up with a way to know I had all my tools before I left the inspection. Now with a quick glance, if I see an open space, I know to find that tool before I leave.

[bdoles2]

Here's my case - http://www.nachi.org/forum/f58/my-ne...y-stuff-30616/

[ROBERT W. NEWLAND, JR.]

Originally Posted by rnewland

Hey Jeff. I'm away now but will take a picture of it and post later. It's a Pelican case with cut-outs for my more expensive tools. After leaving two moisture meters behind I had to come up with a way to know I had all my tools before I left the inspection. Now with a quick glance, if I see an open space, I know to find that tool before I leave.

Here you go, it's a Pelican 1560

[Jeffrey R. Jonas]

Brian & Robert,
Looks like you both use the same type case. I like it! Guess what I'll be looking to get soon. Getting tired of searching through my bag, too disorganized.
Thanks for posting the pic's.
Jeff

[ROBERT W. NEWLAND, JR.]

Originally Posted by jjonas

Brian & Robert,
Looks like you both use the same type case. I like it! Guess what I'll be looking to get soon. Getting tired of searching through my bag, too disorganized.
Thanks for posting the pic's.
Jeff

Brian is the one that put me on to this case.. thanks Brian! (I think Brian's case has better toys than mine)

[Joe Funderburk, CMI]

Personally, I don't think buyers are paying us hundreds of dollars to find mice turds. The number of places you could potentially find rodent droppings is almost unlimited. Example:

Do you remove the covers for spa tubs if they are screwed in place?

Do you pull out refrigerators? (Be careful not to damage the floor if you are stupid enough to do that.)

Do you remove the pan drawer at the bottom of a range?

Do you pull out and look behind the bathroom drawers?

Do you look under the bed or sofa?

Do you report a dead mouse in the crawl space? (What about a snake skin?)

Each person has to make his own determination about how extensively he wants to inspect. For me, there's a delicate balance between doing a thorough job and yet getting home in time to spend a few minutes with my family, or being technically exhaustive and adding unnecessary time to the inspection.

I had a house the other day where the sub-floor in the crawl space was concealed by thermal insulating panels fastened to the bottom of the joists. The buyer asked me to remove them to inspect the floor framing. I declined. Explained that it was technically exhaustive and that I didn't own the home and couldn't dismantle it.

[David P. Valley]

Originally Posted by jfunderburk

Personally, I don't think buyers are paying us hundreds of dollars to find mice turds. The number of places you could potentially find rodent droppings is almost unlimited. Example:

Do you remove the covers for spa tubs if they are screwed in place?

Do you pull out refrigerators? (Be careful not to damage the floor if you are stupid enough to do that.)

Do you remove the pan drawer at the bottom of a range?

Do you pull out and look behind the bathroom drawers?

Do you look under the bed or sofa?

Do you report a dead mouse in the crawl space? (What about a snake skin?)

Each person has to make his own determination about how extensively he wants to inspect. For me, there's a delicate balance between doing a thorough job and yet getting home in time to spend a few minutes with my family, or being technically exhaustive and adding unnecessary time to the inspection.

I had a house the other day where the sub-floor in the crawl space was concealed by thermal insulating panels fastened to the bottom of the joists. The buyer asked me to remove them to inspect the floor framing. I declined. Explained that it was technically exhaustive and that I didn't own the home and couldn't dismantle it.

I was thinking of adding toilets to my removal list......

[bdoles2]

Originally Posted by jfunderburk

Do you remove the covers for spa tubs if they are screwed in place?

Sure do, it's no different than a dishwasher in my eyes. If I didn't remove this cover, I wouldn't have found this.

http://www.homeinspectoratlanta.com/node/245

[klott]

Speaking of pest, always inspect gable vents for Bats, they love them and static roof vents for Bird and Squirrel nest. Last but not least, check all dryer, Bath and vent Hood vents, a favorite for critters if house has been vacant for a spell. Mice do not have Skulls, so they can squeeze thru 1/4" cracks to infiltrate dwellings.

[Joe Funderburk, CMI]

Originally Posted by klott

Mice do not have Skulls, so they can squeeze thru 1/4" cracks to infiltrate dwellings.

What are their jaws and teeth connected to? They do indeed have skulls. I believe every mammal does. They do have a collapsible ribcage. That's what allows them to get small.

Mr. Jingles.

[klott]

I think I may have worded that wrong Joe, there is something about their skull that allows it to collapse, I will see if I can find the info on that.

[Eric C. Van De Ven]

Do you remove the covers for spa tubs if they are screwed in place?

Yes, how else are you going to see if the receptacle is G.F.I. protected if no G.F.I. breaker is present?

Do you pull out refrigerators? (Be careful not to damage the floor if you are stupid enough to do that.)

Stupid? Until you find the plastic line looped up wrapped on top of the cord for the refrigerator, or, as I have seen, the entire wall removed to accommodate the fridge. Or, a leak at the shut off valve that is dangling out of the wall.

Do you remove the pan drawer at the bottom of a range?
Of course, it is an easy way to check for the anti-tip bracket.....right?

Do you pull out and look behind the bathroom drawers?
Yep, especially if the shut off valves are missing...because someone was too lazy to relocate them.

Do you look under the bed or sofa?
Yep....Ya need to know where the cats are! LOL

Do you report a dead mouse in the crawl space? (What about a snake skin?)
What about this:I can't post attachments, but it would have been a picture of a rather large dead animal under a mobile home I inspected.

I think that each inspector should make his own decision as to what he is going to do.
I would be real careful about stating what you don't do.

[Gerald C. Wilcox]

After reading this thread, I though maybe i'll just remove the cover next time to see what I might see.......The pump was leaking. Ok I'm convinced, will remove covers from now on.

[Jeffrey R. Jonas]

Originally Posted by gwilcox

After reading this thread, I though maybe i'll just remove the cover next time to see what I might see.......The pump was leaking. Ok I'm convinced, will remove covers from now on.

Amazing what you see, when you open your eyes. You may have just saved yourself the cost of that (leaking) pump, as well as a damaged floor. Good job!

[Sean Fogarty]

Do you remove the covers for spa tubs if they are screwed in place?

Yes, how else are you going to see if the receptacle is G.F.I. protected if no G.F.I. breaker is present?

To answer this one, I have never seen a gfci inside the panel. It is either in the breaker panel or wired into the wall outlet by the sink. Pretty difficult to reset in a tub panel.
Looks like I started a dishwasher trend. Keep posting pics of all the dishwasher defects you find!