Arizona termite certification

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by Scott Schultz

Have they maybe changed the rules since you guys got your wdi inspection license? how long have you had them? I'm hoping that this 3,000 hour thing isn't true. Funny, you need 80 hours to get licensed to inspect an entire house but need 3,000 hours to be able to tell someone if they have termites or not.

Read this again Scott http://www.sb.state.az.us/applications/pdf/ALFAQ.pdf

[rnewman1]

Originally Posted by Scott Schultz

Funny, you need 80 hours to get licensed to inspect an entire house but need 3,000 hours to be able to tell someone if they have termites or not.

Unfortunately is is true, you actually need to have three different licensees to perform WDII inspections in AZ with your own company. I agree that this picture is skewed, especially if you watch most of the termite inspectors browsing around the house, filling out the form out and of they go with no peak into crawl spaces, attics, fireplaces etc. Also ethical questionable is the fact that they can inspect it and bid on the removal.

The "Business of Structural Pest Control" is defined as: Engaging in, offering to engage in, advertising for, soliciting or performing structural pest control, including any of the following: (a) Identifying infestations or making inspections for the purpose of identifying or attempting to identify infestations of households or other structures and the surrounding area by any of the following: (i) Public health pests, (ii) Aquatic pests, (iii) Household pests, (iv) Wood-destroying insects, (v) Pests, including weeds, existing around structures, in ornamental shrubs and trees, on golf courses, along rights-of-way or in lawns and cemeteries, (vi) Fungi, (b) Making written or oral inspection reports, recommendations, estimates or bids with respect to infestations, (c) The application of pesticides or the making of contracts or submitting of bids for the application of pesticides or the use of devices for the purpose of eliminating, exterminating, controlling or preventing infestations

[lcalderon]

So is it even worth getting the license?

[dharris]

Originally Posted by lcalderon

So is it even worth getting the license?

Sure it's worth it
The realtors will love you for offering a one stop service
The realtors will love you because you won't find as much as an experienced WDO inspector
They really love you when you offer it for free to get the inspection
The Pest control companys love you as the realtor tells them to treat what you found
Miss something, the pest control co answer will be , hey I only treated what the certified newby HI identified, call him and his insurance co not me

Oh yea another one... The realtor will really, really, love you because it will make them look good when they say, after the inspection ,
My other company bills at escrow I'm sure that you also do that along with your HI inspection fee

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by dharris

Sure it's worth it
The realtors will love you for offering a one stop service
The realtors will love you because you won't find as much as an experienced WDO inspector
They really love you when you offer it for free to get the inspection
The Pest control companys love you as the realtor tells them to treat what you found
Miss something, the pest control co answer will be , hey I only treated what the certified newby HI identified, call him and his insurance co not me

Oh yea another one... The realtor will really, really, love you because it will make them look good when they say, after the inspection ,
My other company bills at escrow I'm sure that you also do that along with your HI inspection fee

That is just a dumb thing to say Dan. Is that your favorite association thing to say, or is it your favorite HI school thing to say?

If AZ HI's want to increase their revenue by obtaining the requisite training and State Licenses to offer their client another service why shouldn't they?

I guess they could offer unregulated, limited training, IR camera inspections.
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[dharris]

Originally Posted by bkelly2

That is just a dumb thing to say Dan. Is that your favorite association thing to say, or is it your favorite HI school thing to say?

If AZ HI's want to increase their revenue by obtaining the requisite training and State Licenses to offer their client another service why shouldn't they?

I guess they could offer unregulated, limited training, IR camera inspections.
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No actually it's based on my own observations of realtors actions over the past 5 plus years..

I cannot count how many times that I've seen or heard a realtor state to customers ...
With WDO inspections performend by experienced pest control guys .
"Thats BS, the house was inspected last year we'll call another inspector that I work with" ..

And actually had one state to their customer with me there.
" If you used my HI inspector the WDO report would of been free".
Fortunately that one didn't wash.. a few weeks later the customer called me and was using another realtor and called the established company that I suggested they call..

With appraisers.. Same exact thing if the appraisal didn't come in at asking price.

Point is... The only way to get WDO inspections is marketing to realtors and the only benefit of a HI doing WDO inspections is appeasing the realtors..

If you don't give the results the realtor needs your just another HI and WDO inspector phone number in the trash can.. Why put your self in that position for a few measly $s with the additional liability that your exposed to?

Facts are, an experienced WDO inspector with thousands of inspections experience will find something a new HI inspector with 80 hrs HI training and 30 paralel inspections and a 2 day WDO training course will not.

Facts are.. if you miss something the 1st thing the realtor will do is tell the customer to call the BTR..
Are you willing to risk your HI license for a $0 -60.00 or ? WDO fee???

Are you going to the ITA thingy tonight???
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[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by dharris

No actually it's based on my own observations of realtors actions over the past 5 plus years..

I cannot count how many times that I've seen or heard a realtor state to customers ...
With WDO inspections performend by experienced pest control guys .
"Thats BS, the house was inspected last year we'll call another inspector that I work with" ..

And actually had one state to their customer with me there.
" If you used my HI inspector the WDO report would of been free".
Fortunately that one didn't wash.. a few weeks later the customer called me and was using another realtor and called the established company that I suggested they call..

With appraisers.. Same exact thing if the appraisal didn't come in at asking price.

Point is... The only way to get WDO inspections is marketing to realtors and the only benefit of a HI doing WDO inspections is appeasing the realtors..

If you don't give the results the realtor needs your just another HI and WDO inspector phone number in the trash can.. Why put your self in that position for a few measly $s with the additional liability that your exposed to?

Facts are, an experienced WDO inspector with thousands of inspections experience will find something a new HI inspector with 80 hrs HI training and 30 paralel inspections and a 2 day WDO training course will not.

Facts are.. if you miss something the 1st thing the realtor will do is tell the customer to call the BTR..
Are you willing to risk your HI license for a $0 -60.00 or ? WDO fee???

Are you going to the ITA thingy tonight???
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1. Yes see you tonight.

2. The BTR has no say in WDI inspections.

3. My web pages seems be drawing in both termite and HI's.

4. A few measly dollars times 200 odd inspections adds up old chum.

5. I have insurance and try not to miss anything.

6. Many expierenced WDI inspectors are on site less the 15 minutes and do not go in the attic.

7. Since when did you start listening to Realtors?????????