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Old 7/24/09, 11:07 PM
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$315 plus $255 a year just to open a door. WOW. Regardless I'm sure it will make me money I'll get one. Watch out Mark Infra Red is next.
I'm not worried. When you realize all the extra liability you are putting yourself in with it you'll pass.

BTW, How much demand are you seeing with infra red. I've only ever gotten one call, it wouldn't help her in her situation, and she lives in Chicago.



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Old 7/24/09, 11:17 PM
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Well keep in mind I have the ability to code a site that should do well on the search engines so we'll see what the demand will be once I start advertising it. I've been asking current clients and more than a few have shown interest. I think problem here is no one knows about it.



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Old 7/24/09, 11:31 PM
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I have a full lock pick set for situations that a realtor doesn't show up or gives me the wrong access code. Have had to pick 2 locks because clients were waiting for a realtor that decided not to show up or locked the keys inside the house when they last left the property. Takes less than 5 minutes and is a hell of a lot cheaper.
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Old 7/24/09, 11:34 PM
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I have a full lock pick set for situations that a realtor doesn't show up or gives me the wrong access code. Have had to pick 2 locks because clients were waiting for a realtor that decided not to show up or locked the keys inside the house when they last left the property. Takes less than 5 minutes and is a hell of a lot cheaper.
hmmm is that legal Scott? What if it fails for you and you tell a realtor you can get in? Then what?



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Old 7/25/09, 11:32 AM
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hmmm is that legal Scott? What if it fails for you and you tell a realtor you can get in? Then what?
Among all my certifications, I am also a certified locksmith and am allowed to carry lock picking tools. I have permission and contract to enter the home to perform work there is not a problem. The average residential lockset is very easy to pick and I haven't come across the average lock that I haven't been able to get into within couple of minutes.

I have had two instances where I had to pick locks in order to perform an inspection. One where the clients agent forgot about the inspection and decided not to come out after the appointment had been set and confirmed. Another where the agent locked the interior porch entry door keys inside the home when they last left the property. Both inspections were scheduled for over $750 worth of services. I am not going to walk away from that kind of money because someone else can't do their job correctly.
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Old 7/25/09, 11:53 AM
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So you need to be a certified locksmith in order to legally pick locks? I thought about getting into that business before. Do you do that professionally on the side as well?



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Old 7/25/09, 12:33 PM
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Since leaving St. Louis and coming to Southwest Missouri, I have had the pleasant experience of meeting real estate professionals.....instead of the used house salesmen who dominate the bigger cities.

In St. Louis, I would have inspected the exterior and roof, did a report disclaiming the other items that were not available to access at the time of my inspection, and charged the client the full fee......suggesting that they insist upon having their realtor pay the return fee for me to provide the remainder of the inspection and report.

Here, with perhaps only three exceptions noted in the last year, the folks I have had the privilege to work with have ensured that their clients' needs come first and all I have to do is keep up with them. I think that the small town rural area....where the realtor will more than likely be standing in the same grocery checkout line as their former clients many times....forces decency, honesty and integrity in their approach.

These people are, indeed, the exception....but they sure woke me up. If the Missouri Association of Realtors was led by more folks from these areas, it would be a more decent and worthwhile association.



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Maybe you're just getting soft, Jim.
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Old 7/25/09, 1:05 PM
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Maybe you're just getting soft, Jim.

No...there is a difference, and it shows in the fact that houses have continued to hold their values and continue to sell in this area. The desire to get rich on each house they sell has not made its way down here from the big city, yet.

Our problem is not the sellers....but the builders who have no standards, and take full advantage of it. You guys would not believe the things I see down here.

In April, the feds are moving in. This will be fun to watch. Areas with no building codes will suddenly find Uncle Sam supervising contractors, directly, in homes, schools, public buildings and churches built before 1978.



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Old 7/25/09, 1:14 PM
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Maybe you're just getting soft, Jim.

No...there is a difference, and it shows in the fact that houses have continued to hold their values and continue to sell in this area. The desire to get rich on each house they sell has not made its way down here from the big city, yet.

Our problem is not the sellers....but the builders who have no standards, and take full advantage of it. You guys would not believe the things I see down here.

In April, the feds are moving in. This will be fun to watch. Areas with no building codes will suddenly find Uncle Sam supervising contractors, directly, in homes, schools, public buildings and churches built before 1978. I estimate that to be about 80% of the structures in the county where I live.

41 states already have guidelines for these activities and are exempt from federal control. Missouri is not one of them.

Contractors will require federal certification....pay for certification classes.....make their reports, quarterly, to the federal government on their contracting activities......

If it were me, I'd prefer local controls.....but a couple of developers in this area have successfully kept them out. Now, they must deal with the feds.



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Old 7/25/09, 1:23 PM
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No...there is a difference, and it shows in the fact that houses have continued to hold their values and continue to sell in this area. The desire to get rich on each house they sell has not made its way down here from the big city, yet.

Our problem is not the sellers....but the builders who have no standards, and take full advantage of it. You guys would not believe the things I see down here.

In April, the feds are moving in. This will be fun to watch. Areas with no building codes will suddenly find Uncle Sam supervising contractors, directly, in homes, schools, public buildings and churches built before 1978. I estimate that to be about 80% of the structures in the county where I live.

41 states already have guidelines for these activities and are exempt from federal control. Missouri is not one of them.

Contractors will require federal certification....pay for certification classes.....make their reports, quarterly, to the federal government on their contracting activities......

If it were me, I'd prefer local controls.....but a couple of developers in this area have successfully kept them out. Now, they must deal with the feds.
As much as I hate any type of government interference, at least with a federal standard, there will be 1 standard to live up to. Unlike the municipalities in St. Louis where every 10 miles you've got another "code".



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Old 7/25/09, 1:28 PM
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As much as I hate any type of government interference, at least with a federal standard, there will be 1 standard to live up to. Unlike the municipalities in St. Louis where every 10 miles you've got another "code".
I agree....but something tells me that having federal agents inspecting you instead of local people under local authorities will not be pleasant.

Especially those who are used to intimidating or buying off the locals, just in case there might be anyone fitting that description.



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