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[homebild]

Maybe this has been answered, but the 'emergency escape and rescue opening' indicated by the window in the photos above is illegal under the International Residential Code for both 2003 and 2006.

Under what Code is this structure being built?

In fact, under the IRC code, it would be illegal to have ANY window or opening on this side of the house where this one is located since this would constitute a violation of the mandatory 5' fire separation distance to the property line.

Having an opening within 5' from the property line creates a means by which fire from one structure can jump to another.

[Peter C. Russell]

Marcel, thanks for the link and your right I just don't get it they seem cheap, it was only about 68 or 70 today and the shingles would tear just pulling them out of the rapper.

[homebild]

According to this link, the Village of Harwood Heights Illinois uses the 2003 International Residential Code.

Under that Code the 'emergency escape and rescue window' shown in the photos is illegal since it does not provide a legal well size nor ladder to reach grade.

It also may violate the fire separartion distance to the property line...

[Peter C. Russell]

Originally Posted by homebild

Maybe this has been answered, but the 'emergency escape and rescue opening' indicated by the window in the photos above is illegal under the International Residential Code for both 2003 and 2006.

Under what Code is this structure being built?

In fact, under the IRC code, it would be illegal to have ANY window or opening on this side of the house where this one is located since this would constitute a violation of the mandatory 5' fire separation distance to the property line.

Having an opening within 5' from the property line creates a means by which fire from one structure can jump to another.

Why would the property line come into play? It's 70 feet away from the corner of the garage not 5 feet??????

[Peter C. Russell]

Originally Posted by homebild

According to this link, the Village of Harwood Heights Illinois uses the 2003 International Residential Code.

Under that Code the 'emergency escape and rescue window' shown in the photos is illegal since it does not provide a legal well size nor ladder to reach grade.

It also may violate the fire separartion distance to the property line...

Sorry homebild, I see you are referring to Bobs posts on his build, my mistake.

Hopefully Bob checks in and fills us in on his project.

[relliott]

Hey Pete what is that contraption that looks like an yellow awning under second floor.

[relliott]

Hi Home build please fill in your bio or use a name as I feel silly calling you homebild.
As far as a ladder goes I am sure what you are talking about since the place is under construction.
Are you worried about the safety of the workers?
Was wondering where you hail from since you are referring to this specific town code.
As a home inspector I would not worry about local codes , but am interested in what you refer to in the IRC.
Perhaps someone viewing this thread has a good reply to that one.
Around hear we squeeze things in, as the property lines are tight.
Sorry I have been a little busy as we had a nice weekend and calls are starting to come in off my web sites.
all I can say is,It's about time.

[Marcel R. Cyr]

Hope the calls keep coming in Bob, and keep up the good work.

Promotes discussion and we all learn.

Thanks.

Marcel

[Peter C. Russell]

Originally Posted by relliott

Hey Pete what is that contraption that looks like an yellow awning under second floor.

Those are called pump jacks, it's a form of staging that allows us to " pump "our way up to do the siding and start the roof. The yellow net is for safety, there are two end caps against the building that need to go onto the ends.

[homebild]

Originally Posted by relliott

Hi Home build please fill in your bio or use a name as I feel silly calling you homebild.
As far as a ladder goes I am sure what you are talking about since the place is under construction.
Are you worried about the safety of the workers?
Was wondering where you hail from since you are referring to this specific town code.
As a home inspector I would not worry about local codes , but am interested in what you refer to in the IRC.
Perhaps someone viewing this thread has a good reply to that one.
Around hear we squeeze things in, as the property lines are tight.
Sorry I have been a little busy as we had a nice weekend and calls are starting to come in off my web sites.
all I can say is,It's about time.

Rob:

I am a code inspector and builder in Pennsylvania, but am certified nationally with the ICC so I can actually perform Code inspections in any jurisdication that has adopted the ICC codes.

Under the IRC 2003 Code, which is apparantly the Code under which this house is being built, no openings are permitted when the structure comes within three feet of the property line.

From the looks of things, this means that the window shown being installed in the foundation would be serious code violation.

Likewise, a below grade window well is required for an emergency escape and rescue window. This well needs to be a minimum of 9sq ft (3x3ft) and must be supplied with a permanently affixed ladder or steps so anyone who exits the window and gets into the well can then get out of the well.

It does not appear from the photo, that this basement emergency escape window, if that is what it will be, is in complinace with the Code on several counts.

Since this is new construction, the Code under which the dwelling is being constructed rules, and why no sensible discussion about a new structure like this can be held without knowing what the Code provisions are.

You could do us all a favor by calling the Code Office and inquiring what standard is being used here.

And I thank you in advance.

Joe
{homebild}

[David P. Valley]

Originally Posted by homebild

Rob:

I am a code inspector and builder in Pennsylvania, but am certified nationally with the ICC so I can actually perform Code inspections in any jurisdication that has adopted the ICC codes.

Under the IRC 2003 Code, which is apparantly the Code under which this house is being built, no openings are permitted when the structure comes within three feet of the property line.

From the looks of things, this means that the window shown being installed in the foundation would be serious code violation.

Likewise, a below grade window well is required for an emergency escape and rescue window. This well needs to be a minimum of 9sq ft (3x3ft) and must be supplied with a permanently affixed ladder or steps so anyone who exits the window and gets into the well can then get out of the well.

It does not appear from the photo, that this basement emergency escape window, if that is what it will be, is in complinace with the Code on several counts.

Since this is new construction, the Code under which the dwelling is being constructed rules, and why no sensible discussion about a new structure like this can be held without knowing what the Code provisions are.

You could do us all a favor by calling the Code Office and inquiring what standard is being used here.

And I thank you in advance.

Joe
{homebild}

Homebild is referring to this picture...



If this opening is designed to be an egress, then there does appear to be a 3 foot clearance but what happens when the egress stairs or well is finally installed???

It will be outside the property line.

[Michael Larson]

Try this one.http://www.nachi.org/forum/attachmen...3&d=1178601726

[David P. Valley]

Originally Posted by mlarson

Try this one.http://www.nachi.org/forum/attachmen...3&d=1178601726

Wow, big difference.

Now I see it.

[homebild]

Originally Posted by mlarson

Try this one.http://www.nachi.org/forum/attachmen...3&d=1178601726

Much better photo.

Depending upon where the actual property line is, the emergency escape and rescue opening and well may comply and as long as the window is greater than 3' from the property line, it can be where it is and not violate fire separation distance requirements.

The 2003 IRC Code prohibits penetrations in any wall that is within the 3' fire separation distance.

And any walls or projections (like eaves) into the fire separation distance have to be of usually 2 hour fire rated construction.

The 2006 IRC Code has further restricted the distance to 5'.

Looks like they are in compliance here...but only by inches if they are...

[relliott]

Thanks Hombild (can I call you Homes for short)I like the fact that you are up on these codes.
You scare me and it's not even my place.
Your thread encouraged me to join another forum.

http://bcodes.infopop.cc/eve Thanks.