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Old 2/5/08, 7:51 PM
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  • WORTH REPEATING!
In the future {as in the past} if ASHI wants us to honor their seminars they must on a “seminar by seminar” basis;

1. Submit a lesson plan / core curriculum for the seminar.


2. ASHI charges $25.00 per CEU for “review” of the material. We will reciprocate.

3. A money order or cashier’s check made out to NACHI-NH must accompany this material.

4. Submit a bio of the instructor.

PS:
Scott,
Since YOU have chosen to interject yourself in this matter .... Be sure to get this message out to your New Hampshire ASHI buddies.



Signed, Frank Carrio, CMI
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Old 2/5/08, 7:59 PM
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John M. writes:

Quote:
I have come in contact with Scott a few times in the last year and I find him to have
one of the finest posturing abilities of false humility I have ever seen. But, when he
feels the time is right, he will attack with a vengeance and slander Nick Gromicko
and all that is InterNACHI, with no remorse.

Activerain had to removed his slander against Nick and InterNACHI on their forum
a while back. Then he lied about what he said after they pulled his comments. That is a fact.
Nick is my friend and I remember every word.

So when Scott says "lets all just get along"... it rings shallow. And when Scott pretends
not to know how to answer a simple question about ASHI's fee for approval policy, he
is not man enough to give a simple answer regarding the truth. He chooses to divert his
answer around Nick's question and then when confronted to get back to the original
question being asked, he pretend he does not know.

I'm not not impressed.
Thanks. It is why I come down on him hard. I'm normally not as fierce. Scott throws my name around all over the place on other message boards.



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Old 2/5/08, 8:08 PM
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Originally Posted by prussell
Not to mention that every NACHI NH members has heard the disparaging email sent to all of our state senators. This email was sent out by Omnispec AKA Bob MacDonald and Joe Bates.

I actually had it read to me by my state senator and I have to admit I was floored.

I have talked to both Bob and Joe in the halls of the State house recently and both had told me we all need to work together, lets bury the hatchet, come to our seminars, ETC. Then to have this hog wash read to me was a slap in the face.

The actions of these two individuals have lead me to believe I can never trust anyone connected to ASHI and I for one look forward to their demise.

Besides their fake coalition and their outrageous lies to our Senators only one word comes to mind, liars!!!!!!!!

JMHO
Worth repeating, they continue to show their true colors time and time again,
the only problem is they don't realize we remember all their stupid antics.

I sent Scott a personal email and he did respond but I asked him to have the two principles here in NH contact me so I could personally discuss their action, then and now, guess what, they have the balls to tell my Senator I am not qualified to do a home inspection but can't say it to my face. This my friends is who we are dealing with, desperate individuals in a dying cause.
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Old 2/6/08, 2:15 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by prussell:
Not to mention that every NACHI NH members has heard the disparaging email sent to all of our state senators. This email was sent out by Omnispec AKA Bob MacDonald and Joe Bates.

I actually had it read to me by my state senator and I have to admit I was floored.
Bates and McDonald made a serious error in judgment! They do not realize that we have many, many friends in both the House and in the Senate! This vicious e-mail only served to discredit them both individually and as an association!

I have talked to both Bob and Joe in the halls of the State house recently and both had told me we all need to work together, lets bury the hatchet, come to our seminars, ETC.
Yes, we have seen this "Can't we all just get along" song and dance more than once.

They say this to your face while all the time continuously stabbing you in the back! Their behavior has not changed one iota since day one!

Then to have this hog wash read to me was a slap in the face.
When a New Hampshire State Senator read this ASHI e-mail to you what else could you expect?
They have proven time and time again that they are not be believed and they are certainly not to be trusted.

The actions of these two individuals have lead me to believe I can never trust anyone connected to ASHI and I for one look forward to their demise.
Their New Hampshire membership in 2003 was approximately 16 members. This included candidates and associates!
Their New Hampshire are 2008 "membership" is now down to single digits.
We have approximately 8 former ASHI members who have joined NACHI and who told us that they were tired of paying and paying, and paying and getting nothing out of their so-called "membership".
Apparently the others have gone back to their former professions.

Besides their fake coalition and their outrageous lies to our Senators only one word comes to mind, liars!!!!!!!!
you have 93 certified New Hampshire home inspectors who are in 100% agreement with you.

All of us have witnessed at one time or another the obvious lies and slander statements that have come out of these peoples mouths!

We are all just a sick of it as you are and we are fighting back and justifiably so!

JMHO
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Originally Posted by prussell
Worth repeating, they continue to show their true colors time and time again,
the only problem is they don't realize we remember all their stupid antics.
Pete,
you are 100% correct! There is an old saying "Fool me once shame on you, Fool me twice shame on me!"


Over the years ASHI has tried to fool us again, again, and again! The only thing "new" is that we are not taking it anymore!

Now we are giving back to them what they have been dishing out to us for years and years!

I sent Scott a personal email and he did respond but I asked him to have the two principles here in NH contact me so I could personally discuss their action, then and now, guess what, they have the balls to tell my Senator I am not qualified to do a home inspection but can't say it to my face.
When it comes to ASHI's attempts to try to discredit us both as an association and as individual members You, I, and many, many New Hampshire NACHI Certified Home Inspectors have stood by and tried to be "Gentleman".

Now that we are fed up and we are "fighting back" and now that we have leveled the playing field ASHI is crying "boo hoo hoo, it's not fair, it's not fair"!
We are being discriminated against boo-hoo Hoo!

This my friends is who we are dealing with, desperate individuals in a dying cause.
Yes, they are dying and are desperate! That is why they have formed their obviously fake/phony "independent coalition" because they realize that under the mantle of "ASHI" they have burned their bridges with us!

Well there little trick has backfired on them! Any credibility that they might have had has been destroyed by the formation of this fake coalition!

All of our Senators are aware that the Board of Directors of the local ASHI chapter are the same so-called "officers" on this phony coalition!

Talk about cutting your own throat and digging your own grave!
I for one am happy to see it!



Signed, Frank Carrio, CMI
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Certified Commercial Building Inspector
Certified, WDI Inspector
Founder & Current President, New Hampshire State Chapter NACHI
NACHI, State Representative for Legislative Affairs
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Old 2/6/08, 2:35 AM
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[quote=gromicko]
John M. writes: Quote:
I have come in contact with Scott a few times in the last year and I find him to have one of the finest posturing abilities of false humility I have ever seen. But, when he feels the time is right, he will attack with a vengeance and slander Nick Gromicko and all that is InterNACHI, with no remorse.

Activerain had to removed his slander against Nick and InterNACHI on their forum a while back.
Then he lied about what he said after they pulled his comments.

That is a fact. Nick is my friend and I remember every word.
  • So when Scott says "lets all just get along"... it rings shallow.
And when Scott pretends not to know how to answer a simple question about ASHI's fee for approval policy, he is not man enough to give a simple answer regarding the truth.

He chooses to divert his answer around Nick's question and then when confronted to get back to the original question being asked, he pretend he does not know.
End Quote:

Quote: Nick Gromicko:
I'm not not impressed.
Thanks. It is why I come down on him hard. I'm normally not as fierce. Scott throws my name around all over the place on other message boards.
End Quote:
[/quote]
Nick,
you are 100% correct! Scott Patterson regularly trashes you out and trashes NACHI out on a continuous and unrelenting basis.


His little song and dance of "can't we all just get along" rings false in my ears.

When it comes to trying to discredit you as a person and NACHI as professional association I would say the Scott Patterson is the leader of the pack!

He has openly assumed an active and prominent adversarial role for a long, long time.
He has made it very clear on this thread that;
1. He does not hold any offices with ASHI.


2. He does not speak for ASHI national.

3. He is only voicing a "personal opinion".

So the bottom line is "NACHI national headquarters" got in touch with "ASHI national headquarters" and we were told by a bona fide ASHI employee that ASHI would not recognize or issue any continuing education credits from NACHI or any other trade association.

So who do I choose to believe .....
1. an employee from ASHI national headquarters or Scott Patterson?

2. You, or Scott Patterson?

3. Joe Farsetta or Scott Patterson?

I guess the answer is kind of obvious....

Scott Patterson lost any and all credibility during many of his previous and continuous slanderous attacks against NACHI.



Signed, Frank Carrio, CMI
Certified Master Inspector & Consultant
Certified Commercial Building Inspector
Certified, WDI Inspector
Founder & Current President, New Hampshire State Chapter NACHI
NACHI, State Representative for Legislative Affairs
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Old 2/6/08, 8:27 AM
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You can't blame him too much.

Scott was in charge of ASHI recruitment during the period that ASHI memberships saw its greatest decline....and NACHI, it's greatest increase.

His choices are to find fault with us or look within. The shallow man that you described took the easiest road.
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