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Old 11/15/09, 2:47 PM
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St Louis City writes its own codes.

St Louis County uses its own codes, in part, with some references to International Plumbing Code and the IRC.

Each of the 90 plus municipalities in the county that have codes (not all have their own, but use County's) use various years of the IRC which they have changed/modified by ordinance.

It is possible to have three houses on the same block under three different jurisdictions using three different code references.

Franklin County, which borders St. Louis County, has no codes at all.

That is what I mean.



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Old 11/15/09, 2:52 PM
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Default Re: Code Check Complete

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St Louis City writes its own codes.

St Louis County uses its own codes, in part, with some references to International Plumbing Code and the IRC.

Each of the 90 plus municipalities in the county that have codes (not all have their own, but use County's) use various years of the IRC which they have changed/modified by ordinance.

It is possible to have three houses on the same block under three different jurisdictions using three different code references.

Franklin County, which borders St. Louis County, has no codes at all.

That is what I mean.
I figured that's where your getting at. So basically we would be crazy to even worry about what the code is on any given home.



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Old 11/16/09, 12:41 AM
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Default Re: Code Check Complete

Billy -

To reiterate what JB said; In KC we have at least 80-81 cities ot towns making up the metroplex. There are areas in KC where I can be at a major intersection AND have 4 different cities / towns on the opposides sides of the intersection. One using the 2000 IRC, one using the 2003 IRC, one using the 2006 IRC and the 4th using a hodge-podge of various codes (1 version for Building; 1 version for Plumbing; and a version of the NEC for electrical). On top of that some townships EXCLUDE certain provisions OR adapt sections they themselves have written.

Therefore I don't QUOTE Code UNLESS code certified to do so in SPECIAL cases like EXPERT WITNESS. We talk about "current safety practices recommend" OR "current building standards recommend", etc.

Having said ALL that get a Code Check 2003 or 2006 Version and Fly with that. By the way / the AHJ in any given area DOES NOT typically use CODE CHECK - they use the actual Code Books. We use Code Check as a short easy to use reference book - AS will you.
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Old 11/16/09, 12:59 AM
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I figured that's where your getting at. So basically we would be crazy to even worry about what the code is on any given home.
Honestly, the best you will ever do is an educated guess which is not what your client is paying for. Don't use the word "code" in any reference you make to what should be referred to as typically or normally accepted building standards.



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