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Old 1/26/07, 5:52 PM
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It's not a matter of belonging to Nachi, it would be unethical regardless of affiliation to any organization anywhere legal or not in my opinion. Whatever that's worth, Ken
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Maybe he could be pioneer in Real Estate. Work as a buyer's agent for a flat fee paid whether or not his client bought a home. Then he could actually work in the best interest of his client without worrying about his pocketbook. Would you find it sleazy for him to be the HI in those sales?
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[quote=fcarrio]Most clients stay away from Home Inspectors that are referred by a Realtor. They see that as "A conflict of interest." [/quote]

That's a very broad statement that most here would probably disagree with.
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Old 1/26/07, 6:01 PM
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Would you find it sleazy for him to be the HI in those sales?
Yes. The buyer's agent still profits from a sale.



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Old 1/26/07, 6:08 PM
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Maybe he could be pioneer in Real Estate. Work as a buyer's agent for a flat fee paid whether or not his client bought a home. Then he could actually work in the best interest of his client without worrying about his pocketbook. Would you find it sleazy for him to be the HI in those sales?
OH WHAT A TANGLED WEB WE WEAVE,
WHEN WE FIRST ATTEMPT TO DECEIVE.

Nachi Member, non Nachi member, it matters not.
All of the little excuses, caveats, and different scenarios that anyone can conceive are not going to change anything.
Disingenuous is disingenuous, common sense is just common sense and all of the vacuous statements are not going to fool anyone.

This is a CLEAR conflict of interest.



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Old 1/26/07, 6:14 PM
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Most clients stay away from Home Inspectors that are referred by a Realtor. They see that as "A conflict of interest." [/quote]

That's a very broad statement that most here would probably disagree with.
I get A LOT and I repeat A-LOT of calls from clients that tell me that the seller's agent referred them to an inspector that was on their "Preferred Vendors" list.

My clients tell me that they felt really uncomfortable using the "Realtors Inspector".

Most people can see an ambush coming from a mile away.

PS: This issue has been debated before. Someone even posted a link to a video on this subject.



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Old 1/26/07, 6:18 PM
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It's not a matter of belonging to Nachi, it would be unethical regardless of affiliation to any organization anywhere legal or not in my opinion. Whatever that's worth, Ken
But as we all know, different people, different organizations, and different states have different ethics.



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Old 1/26/07, 6:20 PM
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Most clients stay away from Home Inspectors that are referred by a Realtor. They see that as "A conflict of interest." [/quote]

That's a very broad statement that most here would probably disagree with.
Most likely true. A few months ago, SDAR did a survey of its members and found that fully 84% of its members said that their Clients accepted their referrals for home inspectors, escrow companies, etc.



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Old 1/26/07, 6:21 PM
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But as we all know, different people, different organizations, and different states have different ethics.
As we all know some people have NO ethics, or sense of right or wrong.
They will screw over anyone for the almighty dollar.



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I get A LOT and I repeat A-LOT of calls from clients that tell me that the seller's agent referred them to an inspector that was on their "Preferred Vendors" list.

My clients tell me that they felt really uncomfortable using the "Realtors Inspector".

Most people can see an ambush coming from a mile away.

PS: This issue has been debated before. Someone even posted a link to a video on this subject.
ART tells me that in 5½ years and thousands of inspections, we have had exactly seven Clients tell us that they found us independently because they didn't want to use their Realtor's preferred inspector.



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Old 1/26/07, 6:22 PM
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As we all know some people have NO ethics, or sense of right or wrong.
They will screw over anyone for the almighty dollar.
And those people exist in every industry. So?



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Old 1/26/07, 6:27 PM
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Most likely true. A few months ago, SDAR did a survey of its members and found that fully 84% of its members said that their Clients accepted their referrals for home inspectors, escrow companies, etc.
I must be getting the calls from the other 16%.

Besides wasn't this poll done by Realtors for Realtors?

Who is to say that it is a valid poll?
All it states is "Hooray for Our Side"!

Russ,
With all due respect......A Poll about Realtors, for Realtors? .....Oh Pleeeaaassee!



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Old 1/26/07, 6:31 PM
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ART tells me that in 5½ years and thousands of inspections, we have had exactly seven Clients tell us that they found us independently because they didn't want to use their Realtor's preferred inspector.
Who is Art , and how can you verify this information. What are their names? When did they call?
More importantly how can I verify this information?

More importantly than the 1st more importantly WHY would I want to verify this information????



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OH WHAT A TANGLED WEB WE WEAVE,
WHEN WE FIRST ATTEMPT TO DECEIVE.

Nachi Member, non Nachi member, it matters not.
All of the little excuses, caveats, and different scenarios that anyone can conceive are not going to change anything.
Disingenuous is disingenuous, common sense is just common sense and all of the vacuous statements are not going to fool anyone.

This is a CLEAR conflict of interest.
Unless it is legal in one's state and one practices full disclosure and does an excellent job for his Clients, regardless of which hat he is wearing. Some states that allow it don't even require full disclosure, but as the major brokerages teach their agents, "When in doubt, disclose." They don't teach, "When in doubt, don't."



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Old 1/26/07, 6:33 PM
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I must be getting the calls from the other 16%.

Besides wasn't this poll done by Realtors for Realtors?

Who is to say that it is a valid poll?
All it states is "Hooray for Our Side"!

Russ,
With all due respect......A Poll about Realtors, for Realtors? .....Oh Pleeeaaassee!
No. It was done by the San Diego Union-Tribune using SDAR's membership rolls, which SDAR agreed to. Thus, it was done for the buying public.



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