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Old 6/26/07, 4:05 PM
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I have a few questions about major deficiencies in your reports. Do you all say what is a major? And if you do, what guidelines do you use in order to make an item a major. Also, has anyone considered just doing an inspection and letting the realtors hash out what the majors are?
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Old 6/26/07, 4:09 PM
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I consider any repair over $500 as a major repair.



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I have to agree with Greg. Also if it a safety item.



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I have a few questions about major deficiencies in your reports. Do you all say what is a major? And if you do, what guidelines do you use in order to make an item a major. Also, has anyone considered just doing an inspection and letting the realtors hash out what the majors are?
Thanks!
Gloria
I care less what the agents Do I give my report .

Major is life threating like a gas leak or spindle gap in railing,
Major is a roof that could leak in the next rain storm,
Major is a wall that could fall down at any time,
Major is no TPR valve on a water heater tank,
Marjor could be many more .

If it needs immediate repair or replacement then its MAJOR.
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I care less what the agents Do I give my report .

Major is life threating like a gas leak or spindle gap in railing,
Major is a roof that could leak in the next rain storm,
Major is a wall that could fall down at any time,
Major is no TPR valve on a water heater tank,
Marjor could be many more .

If it needs immediate repair or replacement then its MAJOR.
just to add a little to Roy's post, many minor defects, if not corrected immediately, can, and usually do, lead directly to major problems.
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I don't differentiate. I point out the items in the home that are not functioning as intended, improperly installed, broken, damaged,amateur installation, nearing the end of their useful life, etc., and let the buyer I am working for make an informed decision.



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I don't differentiate between major and minor repairs- it's all relative. . .



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I don't differentiate. I point out the items in the home that are not functioning as intended, improperly installed, broken, damaged,amateur installation, nearing the end of their useful life, etc., and let the buyer I am working for make an informed decision.
This is what we have thought about doing, because a buyer may point out something they want to have fixed but the response of the realtor is "Its not in the major summary" Yet another realtor said they would not use an inspector who did not summerize their inspections as major and minor. I would love some more input.
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The ultimate decision rests with the buyer about what they can and can not live with. Some buyers don't mind significant issues because the house is just what they want in a location they want, while others will walk away over seemingly small issues.

Major is in the eye of the buyer. To some Realtors, nothing is major.



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This is what we have thought about doing, because a buyer may point out something they want to have fixed but the response of the realtor is "Its not in the major summary" Yet another realtor said they would not use an inspector who did not summerize their inspections as major and minor. I would love some more input.
I care less what the agent wants I do every inspection as if it was for my Daughter .

Some things will need improvement at some time in the future and that is how I write .
I use a check list that has in order .

P Provide
R repair or replace
F further evaluation required
I improve
M monitor.

This is the Carson Dunlop system and it has stood the test of time in my books.
I have done many inspections three years later on the same home and some things have been done and many have not .
Did One yesterday that I wrote up that the guard rails on the Deck needed immediate repair or replacement as it had Bars running side ways for guards . Just perfect for little people to climb .
I Checked R and also wrote
( Rails are a climbing hazard need immediate repair or replacement) .
Never done .
Write hard talk soft and miss nothing .
Yes I could have been sued but I tell people that I have CRA
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As a rule of thumb, a major item is an item that has failed or has the potential of failing soon. Then, there are safety items, items not operating and deferred cost items, for me in my report.



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Default Re: What Constitutes a major

Major is relative. If the property is a falling down shack and the buyers knows it, nothing may be major.

I try to be very selective as what I include as major as I do not want people to stop reading at the cover. If I do mention something, I always include a statement to read the rest of the report.
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As a rule of thumb, a major item is an item that has failed or has the potential of failing soon. Then, there are safety items, items not operating and deferred cost items, for me in my report.
Do you have a cost limit? For instance the cost of replacing a leaking roof would be significantly more than a window that is broken.
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Do you have a cost limit? For instance the cost of replacing a leaking roof would be significantly more than a window that is broken.
Never in writing as it can change so much in what they want .
Example in our area shingles could be for a bungalow $4,000:00 and steel roof $12;000:00
A kitchen can vary from $1,500:00 to $20,000:00+.
I do give my idea verbally because many are moving from Toronto and new shingles there Could have cost $15,000:00 do to no access to back yard and many homes are two or three stories high.
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Major & Minor have to do with the value of the defect, I currently use $500 as the line of demarcation but I am seriously thinking about moving it to $1000.



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