The course ASHI doesn't want you to attend. Angela turns our attorney down.

[Nick Gromicko]

Well now that you brought it up, I think our COE should also prohibit membership in the KKK, NAMBLA, Al Quada, and ASHI.

[Frank M. Carrio, CMI]

[quote=jbushart]I agree with Nick and disagree with Joe Farsetta on this one. This is, indeed, an ethical issue...ethics being defined as the study and application of "what is right" and "what is wrong" in the course of doing business with the public.

NACHI and ASHI are two totally different and diverse organizations....and we differ in all of the ways that are good and positive for the inspector and his client. ASHI is different in the ways that are harmful to inspectors (limiting access to education, for example) and his client (misleading statements to the press, false accusations made against anything or anyone not ASHI, and so on).

How ethical would it be for a home inspector to hold dual membership with Al Quada, the Taliban, or the Ku Klux Klan? These associations are also harmful to home inspectors and the public.

I am not certain that I would like to see such a line drawn in the sand at this particular moment in our history....but as to the question "Is this a matter of ethics?", I have to say that it is.

Nick is right on this one.[/quote]

I am in 100% agreement with Jim. {Sorry Joe.}

[Frank M. Carrio, CMI]

[quote=gromicko]Well now that you brought it up, I think our COE should also prohibit membership in the KKK, NAMBLA, Al Quada, and ASHI.[/quote]

Nick, Nick Nick..... ROTFLMAO!!!
I just squirted Pepsi all over my desk!

[Henry Valenzano, CMI]

If you put an end to duel memberships what does that do to membership associations for CMI, Radon, Mold, BBB, the chamber etc? The wording would have to take those associations into account.

[Michael Larson]

Pick you battles gentlemen.

Some hills are worth dieing on and some are not.

If ASHI wants to harm it's members by making it harder to get CEUs then their decline will continue until the members demand change.

If education providers need ASHI members to fill their courses then they can make the business decision to jump through ASHIs hoops.

I fail to see what will be gained by playing tit for tat or making it an ethical issue as to which orgs an HI can belong too.

Just my 2 cents worth

[Nick Gromicko]

LOL, Frank do you know what NAMBLA is?

[Henry Valenzano, CMI]

Originally Posted by mlarson

Pick you battles gentlemen.

Some hills are worth dieing on and some are not.

If ASHI wants to harm it's members by making it harder to get CEUs then their decline will continue until the members demand change.

If education providers need ASHI members to fill their courses then they can make the business decision to jump through ASHIs hoops.

I fail to see what will be gained by playing tit for tat or making it an ethical issue as to which orgs an HI can belong too.

Just my 2 cents worth

I agree
With the over priced dues ashi charges with no benefits and now wants there membership to pay more for education they are shooting them selfs in the foot.

[Frank M. Carrio, CMI]

Originally Posted by hvalenzano

If you put an end to duel memberships what does that do to membership associations for CMI, Radon, Mold, BBB, the chamber etc? The wording would have to take those associations into account.

Henry,
the issue is not with "duel membership". The matter at hand is dealing with ASHI who does not recognize and refuses to accept NACHI as a legitimate educational provider.

For too many years ASHI has had literally a "one-way street" and now we are requiring that they follow the same rules and regulations that they have imposed on us for many, many years.

You must also be aware that many of ASHI's so-called "officers" have continuously slandered and attempted to discredit NACHI as an association and Nick Gromicko as an individual.

Scott Patterson has been on a unrelenting attack against NACHI and Nick for many, many years.

In spite of this "NACHI" has continued to recognize ASHI seminars while they repeatedly refused to recognize ours.
It is time to "level the playing field"!

I am sick and tired of hearing "can't we all just get along" while seeing that ASHI has not changed one iota and they continue to slander an attempt to discredit NACHI at each and every opportunity.

[Frank M. Carrio, CMI]

Originally Posted by gromicko

LOL, Frank do you know what NAMBLA is?

No but .............. it sounds like something Scott Patterson/ASHI came up with.
Is it a "New" ASHI requirement?

[Henry Valenzano, CMI]

Originally Posted by fcarrio

Henry,
the issue is not with "duel membership". The matter at hand is dealing with ASHI who does not recognize and refuses to accept NACHI as a legitimate educational provider.

For too many years ASHI has had literally a "one-way street" and now we are requiring that they follow the same rules and regulations that they have imposed on us for many, many years.

You must also be aware that many of ASHI's so-called "officers" have continuously slandered and attempted to discredit NACHI as an association and Nick Gromicko as an individual.

Scott Patterson has been on a unrelenting attack against NACHI and Nick for many, many years.

In spite of this "NACHI" has continued to recognize ASHI seminars while they repeatedly refused to recognize ours.
It is time to "level the playing field"!

I am sick and tired of hearing "can't we all just get along" while seeing that ASHI has not changed one iota and they continue to slander an attempt to discredit NACHI at each and every opportunity.

I agree fully with you Frank
I just said the wording needed to be careful because of the other associations that are needed.

[Michael Larson]

Like Henry says, if they want to shoot themselves in the foot, let them.

We can stand back and watch them fail even more quickly and it will be a free show.

[Blaine Wiley]

Originally Posted by fcarrio

Where is it "overblown"?
The InterNACHI member shall abide by InterNACHI's current message board rules.

Well, this one sticks out like a sore thumb.

[Frank M. Carrio, CMI]

Originally Posted by bwiley

Well, this one sticks out like a sore thumb.

Care to explain?

[Blaine Wiley]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Well now that you brought it up, I think our COE should also prohibit membership in the KKK, NAMBLA, Al Quada, and ASHI.

Perhaps a wee bit of a stretch to compare ashi to a racist organization that has murdered people, a terrorist organization that has murdered and wants to murder many more people, or a gay man boy love group.

Ashi is in it for ashi, nor our industry, but I don't think their intent has been to murder anyone. Nick might be on their list though...

[Blaine Wiley]

Originally Posted by fcarrio

Care to explain?

In my never to be humble opinion, our COE should deal with how we treat the public and our industry. No one, including Joe has been able to convince me that we need to have an already stated rule of membership in our ethical code that deals with a communication device.

If someone breaks the message board rules, are they not already able to be disciplined in some fashion.

I don't like 3.3 either, and I darn near wrote that one years ago. But, as Albert Einstein said, "When I'm wrong, I change my mind, what do you do?"