Don Imus fired again for mentioning this inspection association on aire.

[Nick Gromicko]

FYI: I know nothing of this national chapter thing, nor does anyone here at my office, nor do I have access to it, same with NAPI, NUPI, NACHINAT or any of them. No "blessing" given, no money taken, it has nothing to do with us. Only the person who set it up using www.nachi.org/chaptersites.htm has access to it. Not us. No "ladies" here want to run another association... this I know for sure. Don't know what it is or what it is about. I'll find out from Chris next week who created it and let you all know but it wasn't staff.

[James E. Braun, CMI]

Thanks Nick

[Frank M. Carrio, CMI]

Originally Posted by mlarson

No humble pie here.

John was hardly upfront about what was going on and his announcement is way too little and way too late. IMHO of course.

See post #31 from Nick:
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FYI: I know nothing of this national chapter thing, nor does anyone here at my office, nor do I have access to it, same with NAPI, NUPI, NACHINAT or any of them.

• No "blessing" given, no money taken, it has nothing to do with us.

Only the person who set it up using www.nachi.org/chaptersites.htm has access to it. Not us.

No "ladies" here want to run another association... this I know for sure.

Don't know what it is or what it is about.

I'll find out from Chris next week who created it and let you all know but it wasn't staff.
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So .... Once again John Bowman has been caught in a bold face lie!

It is my opinion that he has violated the NACHI COE and that any members who have been Flim Flammed / Ripped Off by John Bowman can, and should file an ethics charge against him.

[Nick Gromicko]

I'm sorry if my offer to reimburse everyone's $25 implied that I or my staff had something to do with taking it in the first place... we didn't.

Remember, chapters are pretty free to do as they please, charge as they please, set themselves up as they please, hold events as they please, elect officers as they please, name themselves as they please and spend their money as they please. We don't stick our nose into local business. Chapter autonomy is one of the unique and great (normally) things about InterNACHI.

It's also why we, as an international association, don't support or fight licensing... we only make sure it is association neutral (and we've been very successful at making sure that any legislation, if passed, passes without association bias). The particulars of state or province legislation are up to the members who will be governed by that legislation to support, fight, or change. Same respect from our intervention is given to local chapters, formed by individual members. We only provide the tools such as www.nachi.org/chaptersites.htm

[Nick Gromicko]

Where money is involved, we aren't on the taking side, but rather the giving side. For instance, we cover individual members should they accidentally get in over their heads financially setting up an event that loses money. We don't want any member to get stuck paying out of pocket for trying to help other members. Read www.nachi.org/rewardwithoutrisk.htm

[Frank M. Carrio, CMI]

Originally Posted by gromicko

I'm sorry if my offer to reimburse everyone's $25 implied that I or my staff had something to do with taking it in the first place... we didn't.

Remember, chapters are pretty free to do as they please, charge as they please, set themselves up as they please, hold events as they please, elect officers as they please, and spend their money as they please. We don't stick our nose into local business. Chapter autonomy is one of the unique and great (normally) things about InterNACHI.

It's also why we, as an international association, don't support or fight licensing... we only make sure it is association neutral. The particulars are up to the members who will be governed by them.

The only problem with this scenario is that John Bowman was the NACHI E.D. at the time that he set up this phony "National Chapter."

He used his position in office to try to make it look like "NACHI" was backing this chapter.

• In reality he was using this fund to line his pockets and in his efforts to start a rival association.

The fact that you "Stepped up to the plate" and offered to apply the lost $25.00 to a members renewal fees only shows that you are head and shoulders above John Bowman.

• It is CRYSTAL clear that you have our members best interests at heart and even though you / NACHI and NACHI's staff had nothing to do with ripping off our membership you are will do to "The Right Thing" even when it will cost you money!

Kudos to you Nick ..... You are the reason that NACHI is such a GREAT Association and will continue to thrive and grow long after ASHI, PHIC, NAHI, and NUPI are long gone.

[Nick Gromicko]

NAPI, NUPI, NIPI, NOPI, IHAVETOGOPEE, IMADEADUPI, OOPSI,... they'll just keep coming and the reason for this is because of our staff... they work so hard and make international trade association forming/operating look easy.... it's not.

Click through some of the links in www.nachi.org/success.htm, pause, and consider all the time, energy, and money that went into each of them. My staff has spoiled InterNACHI members, I don't mean this in a bad way, I mean to say that it is going to be awfully difficult for anyone in the future to start an association in the face of the ridiculous value proposition we offer inspectors.

Staff deserves all the credit for making it all but impossible for new associations to compete. Our staff has set the bar high and raise it higher every day.

[Nick Gromicko]

You know me though Frank, I'm never going to say someone shouldn't try. I like competition, and for the good of our industry, I wish we had some.

[Nick Gromicko]

Anyway... the days of associations screwing over inspectors and charging $600 for little more than "logo usage" are long gone. And inspectors are too smart these days. They demand more, deserve more and if InterNACHI members... are used to getting more. Lots more: www.nachi.org/benefits.htm

[Frank M. Carrio, CMI]

Originally Posted by gromicko

You know me though Frank, I'm never going to say someone shouldn't try. I like competition, and for the good of our industry, I wish we had some.
When a "Crook" starts an assocaition for the purpose of lineing their pockets at the expense of the memebrs without giving back anything ..... well the memebrs start to vote with their feet and leave.

WE are seeeing that across the nation with ASHI. I don't give NUPI a snow balls chance in hell!

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NAPI, NUPI, NIPI, NOPI, IHAVETOGOPEE, IMADEADUPI, OOPSI,... they'll just keep coming...
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ROTFLMAO!

GO GET 'EM NICK!

[Frank M. Carrio, CMI]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Anyway... the days of associations screwing over inspectors and charging $600 for little more than "logo usage" are long gone.
That is one of several reasons why ASHI is dying!

And inspectors are too smart these days. They demand more, deserve more and if InterNACHI members... are used to getting more. Lots more: www.nachi.org/benefits.htm

NUPI advertises that they will NOT have meaningless "benefits" .... I guess that Bowman will not have a "National Chapter" in NUPI

[Nick Gromicko]

BTW, just an hour ago tonight, Kenton Shepard, our inspection industry author, just sent me over the proofs for 52 inspection newsletters for inspectors to use and send out to agents and potential clients, we are now going to put them in a library that members can access and use to help market themselves. All free of course. Many thanks to Russell Spriggs for his work on this project. Like I said, we make it tough for old "logo usage" associations to compete and all but impossible for new associations to sprout.

[Frank M. Carrio, CMI]

Originally Posted by gromicko

BTW, just an hour ago tonight, Kenton Shepard, our inspection industry author, just sent me over the proofs for 52 inspection newsletters for inspectors to use and send out to agents and potential clients, we are now going to put them in a library that members can access and use to help market themselves. All free of course. Many thanks to Russell Spriggs for his work on this project. Like I said, we make it tough for new associations to compete.

Awesome!

We / NACHI has some top notch members that are willing to "go the extra mile"

I look forward to seeing the newsletters. I just wonder how long it will take the dying and wannabe associations to steal the copyright material?

I am sure that NUPI will suddenly come up with a similar plan

Nick,
Keep up the Good Fight!

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Where money is involved, we aren't on the taking side, but rather the giving side. For instance, we cover individual members should they accidentally get in over their heads financially setting up an event that loses money. We don't want any member to get stuck paying out of pocket for trying to help other members. Read www.nachi.org/rewardwithoutrisk.htm

I know of no other organization that I have ever seen help their people
with a policy like this. Totally awesome.

[Barry Adair]

Originally Posted by jmckenna1

I know of no other organization that I have ever seen help their people
with a policy like this. Totally awesome.

How was the IR telecourse attendence?