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Old 1/4/08, 4:53 PM
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Bill, is it true that you have a special discount for NAZIs that you are marketing on Jewish-American message boards?

Or was it a special discount for Klansmen that you are marketing on civil rights message boards?

Dude, take a marketing 101 course.



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Bill, is it true that you have a special discount for NAZIs that you are marketing on Jewish-American message boards?

Or was it a special discount for Klansmen that you are marketing on civil rights message boards?

Dude, take a marketing 101 course.
I really have to ask what that is about because I certainly did not catch the meaning??????



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Thats weird.
I thought ASHI didn't offer their members any benefits.



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Isn't that a vendor offering ASHI members a discount? I'm pretty sure many vendors offer ASHI, CREIA and NAHI members service and product discounts as well.
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ASHI has no roofing educational requirements: http://www.ashi.org/inspectors/join/...pplication.pdf (just send ASHI a check and shazam!) so that should make you wonder about this program.

In contrast, InterNACHI requires completion of a comprensive roofing course. See #15 in http://www.nachi.org/membership.htm

This program which clearly tries to entice the least qualified inspectors into it, is harmful to consumers IMHO.

What's next? Giving discounts to legally blind inspectors?

I recommend this competing program...

http://www.nachi.org/certaroof2007.htm
Both are garbage programs, "Certi-Roof" has been here and gone. As inspectors, we get paid to inspect. Here in California it may very well be in direct violation of the California Professions and Ethics Codes which specifically prohibit an inspector from performing any work and or services to a property they've inspected. Leave the roof repair and certification issues to the licensed roofing contractors, you'll sleep better at night.
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Old 1/4/08, 8:59 PM
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The protocal is most likely very similar to what NACHI members are already observing; detail flashing,missing shingles, nail pops all from a ladder. We do not require anyone to climb the roof. The program does train on the fundamentals of the proper installation technigues so inspectors understand why they are important. Only a ladder and digital camera is required unlike our stucco inspector requirements. The digital pictures are to be kept by the inspector for future reference only. We do not require them to be sent to us unless requested.You have not heard of this because we are wanted to be near completion (Jan 19th) before we announced this new program. This is a national product similar model to our Stucco Warranty business but far less complicated.

Visit our website www.moisturefreeinspections.com For additional information call me at 704-439-2161 or email me at bill@moisturefreewarranty.com
Bill,
I am a NACHI certified inspector, ITA certified commercial inspector, HIT certified commercial inspector, certified building science thermographer and certified FEMA disaster housing inspector.

I have also been a contractor specializing in framing, roofing, siding for 23 years.

With all that said, how will your certified program help me?????
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Old 1/5/08, 12:55 PM
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Bill,
I am a NACHI certified inspector, ITA certified commercial inspector, HIT certified commercial inspector, certified building science thermographer and certified FEMA disaster housing inspector.

I have also been a contractor specializing in framing, roofing, siding for 23 years.

With all that said, how will your certified program help me?????
Peter;

You certainly have great credentials and enourmous amount of hands on experiance. Our training program is designed to ensure to us that inspectors which we certifiy truly understand the installation fundementals and problematic areas. It's obvious that you have the abiltiy but we must be certain to uor clients that this training was met. Only a MoistureFree Certified Roof Inspector can approve a roof for our 3rd party warranty products and it's the only way we can be certain.

So to answer your question "how will your certfied program help me?" Technically maybe it has not advantage since you already are well armed but, when homeowners, builders, realtors want to obtain the MoistureFree Roof Performance Warranty they'll seek the services of an inspector with these credentials.

Thanks for your question.
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Both are garbage programs, "Certi-Roof" has been here and gone. As inspectors, we get paid to inspect. Here in California it may very well be in direct violation of the California Professions and Ethics Codes which specifically prohibit an inspector from performing any work and or services to a property they've inspected. Leave the roof repair and certification issues to the licensed roofing contractors, you'll sleep better at night.
As you mentioned others are here and gone but, this program is significantly different. The MositureFree program ensures that a home inspector who has studied the DVD training and passed the online exam understands the proper installation technigues and what to look for. Some builders are using these inspectors to validate that their subcontractors are using the correct methods to protect themselves and the future homeowners. Also, they can offer our warranty on new or existing homes. MoistureFree is paying the inspector for the services they performed as a QC for our Warranty and should not impact the Code of Ethics which we respect. I appreciate your comment, honor your concerns and want everyone to sleep better.
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Isn't that a vendor offering ASHI members a discount? I'm pretty sure many vendors offer ASHI, CREIA and NAHI members service and product discounts as well.
Will;

We are a supplier with not allegiance with any other association and only proving value added services to the inspector market. We look forward to a long standing relationship with NACHI members as well.
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Old 1/5/08, 1:08 PM
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Peter;

You certainly have great credentials and enourmous amount of hands on experiance. Our training program is designed to ensure to us that inspectors which we certifiy truly understand the installation fundementals and problematic areas. It's obvious that you have the abiltiy but we must be certain to uor clients that this training was met. Only a MoistureFree Certified Roof Inspector can approve a roof for our 3rd party warranty products and it's the only way we can be certain.

So to answer your question "how will your certfied program help me?" Technically maybe it has not advantage since you already are well armed but, when homeowners, builders, realtors want to obtain the MoistureFree Roof Performance Warranty they'll seek the services of an inspector with these credentials.

Thanks for your question.
Gee I find this strange you require more training from a qualified person .
I am a retired Electrician and no one has ever demanded I take more training
Every association or group has excepted my qualifications cart Blanch.
The more I read the more I think it is just another money grab
Can you say Amway..
I would think any trades person could talking to a person on the phone could soon get to realize what level of a roofer he is.


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We have independent MoistureFree Stucco Inspectors & contractors across the country. Our Warranties for Stucco have been approved and backed by an RRG. The roof warranty is following the same business model and in the approval process.
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Old 1/5/08, 3:29 PM
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I spoke with Bill at length this morning from my home. We have some big things coming for InterNACHI members.



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No more NAZI discounts???
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Old 1/5/08, 5:56 PM
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Peter;

You certainly have great credentials and enourmous amount of hands on experiance. Our training program is designed to ensure to us that inspectors which we certifiy truly understand the installation fundementals and problematic areas. It's obvious that you have the abiltiy but we must be certain to uor clients that this training was met. Only a MoistureFree Certified Roof Inspector can approve a roof for our 3rd party warranty products and it's the only way we can be certain.

So to answer your question "how will your certfied program help me?" Technically maybe it has not advantage since you already are well armed but, when homeowners, builders, realtors want to obtain the MoistureFree Roof Performance Warranty they'll seek the services of an inspector with these credentials.

Thanks for your question.
Can you either email me or post the disclaimers in your 3rd party warranty products, that is where the meat of your product is. JMHO
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I assume your seriously considering our program so I'd be glad to forward to you the information in detail. I see that I don't have the ability to send you an email so feel free to send me one bill@moisturefreewarranty.com
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Old 1/5/08, 6:26 PM
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I assume your seriously considering our program so I'd be glad to forward to you the information in detail. I see that I don't have the ability to send you an email so feel free to send me one bill@moisturefreewarranty.com
No Bill, I am not serious about your program, but I have been wrong before.

I would like to know about it but doubt it's something for me......

I'm in the inspection business, not the warranty business.

I'll send you me email and take a look at your info.
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