filing a complaint with NACHI

[Leanne Jowers]

Mr. Gromicko,

Your response to this message board was that my inspector isn't a member of NACHI and never was. Not true. He WAS a member of NACHI when he did my inspection. His member number was 05071590.

The owner of the inspection company has been a member of NACHI for several years. His advertisements and warranty assure the public that he meets or exceeds NACHI standards (he also claims he meets or exceeds ASHI standards, though he's not a member of ASHI).

You told me in an email that you would help me file a formal complaint with NACHI against the inspection company I hired. You asked for the owner's name and number (you said you'd call him). I've heard nothing else from you, except your response in this forum.

Are you going to help me with a formal complaint as you said you would? At least let me know one way or another.

Thank you.

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by Leanne Jowers

Mr. Gromicko,

Your response to this message board was that my inspector isn't a member of NACHI and never was. Not true. He WAS a member of NACHI when he did my inspection. His member number was 05071590.

The owner of the inspection company has been a member of NACHI for several years. His advertisements and warranty assure the public that he meets or exceeds NACHI standards (he also claims he meets or exceeds ASHI standards, though he's not a member of ASHI).

You told me in an email that you would help me file a formal complaint with NACHI against the inspection company I hired. You asked for the owner's name and number (you said you'd call him). I've heard nothing else from you, except your response in this forum.

Are you going to help me with a formal complaint as you said you would? At least let me know one way or another.

Thank you.

What are you hoping to achieve by your "formal complaint" against a former member of NACHI? The association has no jurisdiction over former members.

Perhaps this can help you, Ms Jowers. It is an article by a man named Walter Jowers (any relation?) who writes articles that are always less than flattering when it comes to home inspectors that are not working for his company. He is also a retired member of ASHI, which would explain why he would be in bed with so many used house salesmen. The two of you seem to share a common agenda.

It is obvious that, if you had a case, it would be in court. Since you don't, it's not.

I'm calling you out, Leanne Jowers/Walter Jowers, or whoever it is you really are. I am publicly challenging your honesty and integrity. Let's see this so-called inspection report that you have come on our message board to pick apart. If it really exists, put a link to a PDF file of it and let us see it. I think you are a liar.

[Paul W. Abernathy]

Originally Posted by dharris

No anger here,
I just tell it the way it is, the guys that know me can confirm that

As far as being a former member , yes, I got banned for being a bad boy.
The cool thing about that is, when I was a member I was always in the red, since being banned I do and say the same things and now have double greenies and heading to tripple greenies

Greenies are a NEW addition to the board Dan...lol.....the did not exist when you were a member I would venture to say......so with that said maybe you just THOUGHT you got red boxes back then...when in reality everyone simply LOVED you....

[rwand1]

From the article of Mr. Jowers.

Which brings me to this: Don't wait for the government to do you a favor and license home inspectors. It's real easy to figure out which home inspectors know what they're doing and will tell you the truth. Just ask one for a copy of an old report. Some reports will be full of fill-in-the-blank nonsense and evasive "inspector-speak"; some will be make perfect sense. Choose somebody who makes sense.

Ya okay Walter, that makes perfect sense to me considering the client likely hasn't got a clue in the first place about what a good report should look like, not to mention the client having the benefit of being at the inspection. The fact is you can have a great inspector and lousy report and vice versa. Unless one is there to see and hear the findings the report is only a very small synopsis of a very large picture.

[dharris]

Originally Posted by pabernathy

Greenies are a NEW addition to the board Dan...lol.....the did not exist when you were a member I would venture to say......so with that said maybe you just THOUGHT you got red boxes back then...when in reality everyone simply LOVED you....

Paul You are corect..
I always see Ken in the red.. on the rep system, the poor guy is just asking simular questions that I did, I figured I would give him some info on how he can also be LOVED
Of course when I was a member I just assumed that I wasn't loved.
Maybe Ken is really LOVED and my information would not help Ken at all.

The funny thing about the rep system... I get 2 greenies for every red box,
that does set me back a little, even with those minor setbacks I'm still more LOVED [ more greenies than Ken] as a non-member [of course maybe I was never unloved when I was a member ]and closer to 3 greenies

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by dharris

Paul You are corect..
I always see Ken in the red.. on the rep system, the poor guy is just asking simular questions that I did, I figured I would give him some info on how he can also be LOVED
Of course when I was a member I just assumed that I wasn't loved.
Maybe Ken is really LOVED and my information would not help Ken at all.

The funny thing about the rep system... I get 2 greenies for every red box,
that does set me back a little, even with those minor setbacks I'm still more LOVED [ more greenies than Ken] as a non-member [of course maybe I was never unloved when I was a member ]and closer to 3 greenies

Green is so important to Dan then all should give him help . He obviously shows his disdain for NACHi and how he is so jealous if all help him too 4 greens he might fell a (Lott) Better . He obviously wants love Too bad he did not get it when he needed it as a youngester . Please every one give Dan a greenie he puts much value in being wanted and loved .
I did.....Roy

[dharris]

Thanks Roy
Now I feel really loved.

Don't forget to help my buddie Ken

[Timothy J. Gardner]

I just finished reading the posts in this thread.

Some observations:
1. The "injured party" in this thread does not reveal the extent of the damages she has incurred. Nor any other avenues she is taking to be compensated. Has she actually spent money to repair her discovered deficiencies or is she just complaining about a previous owner, who by her own admission, covered up the fire damage, and hopes to pocket some found cash?

2 Joe Farsetta is in his typical mode: Verbally bullying anyone who disagrees with him or questions the ESOP.

3. Jim Bushart still drinks Cool-Aid, and comes close to fascism with his - ZE ESOP VILL MAKE ZE BEST DEZIZIONZ DER ISS! ZE NACHI NAZI SCHPRECTS! -
attiitude.

4. Joe Haggerty still gets vicarious thrills from needling both Joe F. and Jim B.

5. Roy Cooke is still hurting from capricious acts against him and continues to fight Chaos (Canadian Hostility of American Organised Systems), but is losing the battle.

6. Nick still just LOVES these little spats.

The complainer here needs to get on with her life and stop blaming others for her problems if she won't put her money where her mouth is.

Best regards to all, TG

[bkelly1]

Now thats Funny.

[Jason1]

I agree, that is the best post I have seen in a while, good job Mr.Gardner

[Leanne Jowers]

My goodness, why all the meanness? Mr. Gardner and Mr. Bushart, why are you so angry with me?

I'm no relation to Mr. Walter Jowers (never heard of him).

I simply want a formal complaint made against the NACHI-certified home inspection company that caused me great damage and anguish. (I've been through all that in another thread). Maybe this complaint can prevent someone else from being hurt.

Facts: I paid for a home inspection. The owner of the company and the person he sent to do the inspection were members of NACHI; the owner still is a member. The inspector failed to inspect the roof or the attic, even though on the report he claimed to have "entered all" the attic. (Had he even peeked, he would have seen/reported SERIOUS fire damage. I posted pictures of the attic and the folks on this site agree there was no excuse for his 'negligence'). The house is unsafe. I would never have bought the house and can't sell it!!! Mr. Bushart, the status of any lawsuit is irrelevant to my filing a complaint with NACHI.

Mr. Bushart, you call me a liar. I would be happy to give all necessary documents to the NACHI ethics board - if they would bother to hear me! I just want to know why NACHI is ignoring me and am asking members if they can get the ethics board to deal with this.

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by Leanne Jowers

Mr. Bushart, you call me a liar. I would be happy to give all necessary documents to the NACHI ethics board - if they would bother to hear me! I just want to know why NACHI is ignoring me and am asking members if they can get the ethics board to deal with this.

This is another untruth, Ms Jowers.

Your post asked the members to pressure Nick into responding to you. Now, your most recent post attempts to get the members to pressure the Ethics Committee to do this for you. You will have to choose a position and stick to it if you want to be considered as credible.

You have yet to allege a violation of our ethics code. You have simply alleged what you believe to be a less than satisfactory inspection, which does not involve NACHI. If you wish to change your complaint to that of an ethical nature, you may submit it with all that you have to support it, to the chairman of the ESOP Committee.

Sorry we couldn't be of more service. Next time, have Walter Jowers do your inspection.

[Leanne Jowers]

Wow! WHY are you so mean and angry towards me?

If I "misspoke" about the ethics complaint, it's because of what YOU told me!!! You were the very first person to respond to my query in this thread. YOU told me, (these are YOUR exact words):

"Mr. Gromicko, upon receipt of your complaint, would have turned it over to a member of the Ethics Committee for investigation. This nvestigation may take some time. Upon its completion, the chairman of the ESOP Committee will advise Mr. Gromicko of the committee's findings and Mr. Gromicko will respond to that... possibly, by contacting you. Perhaps not. All of this may take some time."

So, based upon YOUR advice, I believed that it was the Ethics Committee that would handle a formal complaint.

You also said, "You have simply alleged what you believe to be a less than satisfactory inspection, which does not involve NACHI." If NACHI standards of practice are promised but not delivered, why doesn't it involve NACHI?

Please consider, just for a moment, that everything I've said is the absolute truth (it is). If you have nothing helpful to add, please stay out of this. Your comments/accusations are extremely hurtful.

Leanne Jowers

[James H. Bushart]

Nick would have turned the complaint over to the committee if it involved a member who had violated the COE. It did not, as he stated in his post.

Considering that all you have said is true...

1. You have alleged no violation of the code of ethics. Your complaint would not fall under its (ESOP Committee) jurisdiction.

2. NACHI has no control over the business decisions of its members. Its members agree to "substantially" comply with the SOP. You have not submitted any proof or allegation that the inspector failed to "substantially" comply with the SOP.

3. Your unhappiness regarding the services that you claim were provided to you by a person who you allege to have, at one time, belonged to this association - while unfortunate - is a matter between you and him.

[Michael Larson]

Ms. Jower's,

What possible action could NACHI pursue toward an inspector who is no longer a NACHI member?

You may well want to pursue your "case" but I am unclear how NACHI could help you.