filing a complaint with NACHI

[dharris]

Originally Posted by mlarson

Yes Dan, please explain how a check qualifies someone to do 250 inspections with no training or demonstration of applicable knowledge.

I don't ever recall stating that a ck qualified anybody to do any amount of inspections..

I do recall stating paying an individual 289.00 and taking a non- proctored on line quiz for instant certification, IE: to be marketed to the public as a
"certified inspector " with NO verificiation of that inspectors qualificiations is deceiving, lying and misleading the public.

Please explain how taking an on-line non proctored exam and paying 289.00 for instant certification qualifies an inspector to be "certified".

From what I see in this post and am starting to see on a regular basis the only thing left to help resolve this is state intervention/ licensing.
Posts # 43 and #55 on the CMI topic are just a couple examples.

The CMI post claiming that the CMI is just a valuable marketing tool where inspectors [ with no verified qualificiations ] can make more $s than non CMI inspectors tops it all off.

Truth is less than 20% home inspectors join any org, an inspector that pays ASHI 250.00 for membership pays that money to have access to the most professional,knowledgeable and experienced inspectors in the country.
After joining as a member they use information shared by those inspectors along with required/ verified and qualified CE to earn the title "certified" inspector by demonstrating their knowledge thur proctored testing and verification by ASHI that they are qualified to complete inspections to the ASHI SOP.

[dharris]

Dan is another that comes here makes statements and provides no information as to who he is or where he lives. How do we really know its dharris?

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Roy.. It's really me.. Trust me
Honestly I do not believe there is any other inspector that would be willing to use my name or take credit for my opinions
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[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by dharris

Truth is less than 20% home inspectors join any org, an inspector that pays ASHI 250.00 for membership pays that money to have access to the most professional,knowledgeable and experienced inspectors in the country.
After joining as a member they use information shared by those inspectors along with required/ verified and qualified CE to earn the title "certified" inspector by demonstrating their knowledge thur proctored testing and verification by ASHI that they are qualified to complete inspections to the ASHI SOP.

There is another truth, too.

That truth is that, in spite of all that you have expounded on, ASHI continues to reduce in membership.

As its membership declines and its directors are preparing for a shortfall in order to balance the annual budget, NACHI is growing in numbers and its members struggle to keep up with the benefits of membership that grow, exponentially.

Used home salespeople who used to think that it was best to refer ASHI inspectors have become increasingly confused as their favorite ASHI guys become NACHI members.

Legislators who used to look to the oldest association for guidance have quickly come to see how few inspectors they actually represent. ASHI, in order to be relevant, must disguise itself as a "coalition" and pretend to be a totally different association in order to be listened to.

These truths are shouted out in the market place, every day.

It's much like the now impotent United Kingdom still holding on to its royal traditions in spite of the fact that its "empire" no longer extends beyond its own small, limited border.

Yes. The truth needs to be told and, more importantly, the truth needs to be accepted by those ASHI folks who are still in denial.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Roy.. It's really me.. Trust me
Honestly I do not believe there is any other inspector that would be willing to use my name or take credit for my opinions
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Gee I wish you had not of said that.
Every time some one has said OH! you can trust me they have done their best to steal or sell me some thing I do not want or need .
I see a lot of them come down my street trying to show how they can save me money, or save my life, or convert me to there way of thinking .
Sorry Dan you sure have gone down hill in my books.
You are no more value to me then the sales man who knocks on my door.
Unfortunatly you prove it so often like they do by never taking NO for an answer.
Dan you are a too are loser and feel your way is the only true method to get there.

[Claude Lawrenson]

My concern is regardless of the complainants "family" name - was "she" fairly dealt with? Was that held against her?

Certainly she received an answer from Nick, but did the ESOP committee actually formally respond too?

I see responding to her, regardless of some personal opinions, as the right thing to do. To me its called good public relations.

Than again - that is strictly my own personal opinion on the matter.

[dharris]

Yes. The truth needs to be told and, more importantly, the truth needs to be accepted by those ASHI folks who are still in denial.

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Denial?
Nah.. In this months ASHI reporter there are 98 new Associates listed.
Thats 98 more inspectors that realized joining an HI org with successful inspectors to advance themselves in this profession is a smart business decision.
Six of them are from AZ, a lic. state.

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[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by dharris

Denial?
Nah.. In this months ASHI reporter there are 98 new Associates listed.

Do they publish the 103 who left? They discuss them, alot, on your message board.

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by clawrenson

My concern is regardless of the complainants "family" name - was "she" fairly dealt with? Was that held against her?

Certainly she received an answer from Nick, but did the ESOP committee actually formally respond too?

I see responding to her, regardless of some personal opinions, as the right thing to do. To me its called good public relations.

Than again - that is strictly my own personal opinion on the matter.

The ESOP Committee received nothing to respond to.

Others responded. Some of the responses she liked. Others she did not. Such is life.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Denial?
Nah.. In this months ASHI reporter there are 98 new Associates listed.
Thats 98 more inspectors that realized joining an HI org with successful inspectors to advance themselves in this profession is a smart business decision.
Six of them are from AZ, a lic. state.

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Thanks Dan you again confirm what NICK has said so often Bring money and you are a member of ASHI.
Now if you want to do some thing smart get an old issue of the ASHI reporter and see the names and let us know how many are still working at the Inspection industry .
I have thrown all my old issues out and have not even opened the latest issue.
Please let us know . My feeling it will be less ten 10% if the list is three years old.
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[dharris]

Now if you want to do some thing smart get an old issue of the ASHI reporter and see the names and let us know how many are still working at the Inspection industry .
I have thrown all my old issues out and have not even opened the latest issue.
Please let us know . My feeling it will be less ten 10% if the list is three years old.

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!0% after 3 years....You may be correct. As with any new business start up, I'm sure the failuare rate is comparable in the HI profession reguardless of org affiliation.

[Claude Lawrenson]

Thank James, for your response to my post.

[klott]

Originally Posted by dharris

I don't ever recall stating that a ck qualified anybody to do any amount of inspections..

I do recall stating paying an individual 289.00 and taking a non- proctored on line quiz for instant certification, IE: to be marketed to the public as a
"certified inspector " with NO verificiation of that inspectors qualificiations is deceiving, lying and misleading the public.

Please explain how taking an on-line non proctored exam and paying 289.00 for instant certification qualifies an inspector to be "certified".

From what I see in this post and am starting to see on a regular basis the only thing left to help resolve this is state intervention/ licensing.
Posts # 43 and #55 on the CMI topic are just a couple examples.

The CMI post claiming that the CMI is just a valuable marketing tool where inspectors [ with no verified qualificiations ] can make more $s than non CMI inspectors tops it all off.

Truth is less than 20% home inspectors join any org, an inspector that pays ASHI 250.00 for membership pays that money to have access to the most professional,knowledgeable and experienced inspectors in the country.
After joining as a member they use information shared by those inspectors along with required/ verified and qualified CE to earn the title "certified" inspector by demonstrating their knowledge thur proctored testing and verification by ASHI that they are qualified to complete inspections to the ASHI SOP.

You can't chop down a tree with a rubber axe Dan, you just make all the squirrels come out of hiding.

[dharris]

Originally Posted by klott

You can't chop down a tree with a rubber axe Dan, you just make all the squirrels come out of hiding.

You got Ken...
I hope all those squirrels get nacho certified before they inspect their squirrel houses ..

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by dharris

You got Ken...
I hope all those squirrels get nacho certified before they inspect their squirrel houses ..

The Smilies might make you feel better but it is just same-OH! same-OH! trying to make fun of NACHI and its members .
We all are in this business to try and make a living and when you come into our home to ridicule our association it to me shows you have not much respect for those you visit.
NACHI allows all to visit and learn .
I do not know of any other association that does so much for so many.
Non ASHI members are not allowed onto the ASHI site.
Non ASHI members are not allowed to attend the ASHI conference at ASHI Members rates.
I am a ASHI members and do not support ASHI, as the ASHI members I have spoken too and seeing how you and some other ASHI members give so little respect in our home I see no advantage to trying to bother to go to the ASHI BB.

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[gporter]

for any decision could be made someone would have to fly out and inspect the attic. Join us Jowers.