InterNACHI


Go Back   InterNACHI Inspection Forum > General Inspection Topics > General Inspection Discussion

Notices

General Inspection Discussion This is a place for general discussion about the home inspection industry. Try to keep the posts topical, but they need not be as specific as the other areas of this board.

 
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 12/17/10, 4:45 PM
Chris Macrina Chris Macrina is offline
New User
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Mass
Posts: 2
Please Note: Chris Macrina is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
Default HELP

My girlfriend is looking to buy a house - today i went and viewed it and while in the attic i saw steel cables every 3 feet that ran across the floor boards and where attached to beams on each side. The house appears to be in good structural condition but seeing this is concerning???

Can anybody help me understand why this was up in the attic and is it a bandaid to a much larger problem.

thanks
chris
Reply With Quote
Need a home inspection in Michigan? Check out InterNACHI's listing of Michigan certified home inspectors. Or, find a home inspector anywhere in the world with our inspection search engine.
  #2  
Old 12/17/10, 5:49 PM
Kevin M. Leonard's Avatar
Kevin M. Leonard Kevin M. Leonard is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: SW. Ohio
Posts: 5,638
Default Re: HELP

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Macrina View Post
My girlfriend is looking to buy a house - today i went and viewed it and while in the attic i saw steel cables every 3 feet that ran across the floor boards and where attached to beams on each side. The house appears to be in good structural condition but seeing this is concerning???

Can anybody help me understand why this was up in the attic and is it a bandaid to a much larger problem.

thanks
chris
Is she getting a Home Inspection? If not, she should.



Kevin M. Leonard
The Ohio Home Inspections Company
513-895-7700
937-283-5118




Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12/17/10, 5:59 PM
Christopher Currins's Avatar
Christopher Currins Christopher Currins is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Godfrey, IL
Posts: 7,602
Default Re: HELP

Tell your girlfriend to hire a reputable home inspector. He/she should be able to determine if your concerns or an issue.



Christopher Currins
Certified, Licensed

Proudly serving the St.Louis Metro

St. Charles, St. Peters, Maryland Heights,
O'Fallon, Florrisant, MO Home Inspector




BLESSED ARE THE CRACKED, FOR THEY ARE THE ONES WHO LET IN THE "LIGHT"!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12/17/10, 6:57 PM
Chris Macrina Chris Macrina is offline
New User
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Mass
Posts: 2
Please Note: Chris Macrina is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
Default Re: HELP

Thanks for the replies and yes she is getting an inspection. Just wondering if anyone has seen it.

I was told that the architect who designed the homes addition suggested they put them up.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12/17/10, 7:52 PM
Chuck Evans's Avatar
Chuck Evans Chuck Evans is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Stagecoach, TX
Posts: 2,037
Default Re: HELP

Try to obtain the plans and engineering review for the addition/modification. If they are unavailable consider having a structural engineer review this aspect of the home in addition to your home inspector.



Chuck Evans (TREC #7657)
Level III Infraspection Institute Certified Infrared Thermographer (#8402)
HomeCert Houston Home Inspections & Thermal Inspections Find us on Facebook
Houston Thermal Inspections & Infrared Imaging Find us on Facebook
Houston Home Inspector

Houston, TX
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12/17/10, 8:29 PM
Frank M. Carrio, CMI's Avatar
Frank M. Carrio, CMI Frank M. Carrio, CMI is offline
ESOP Committee Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,364
Default Re: HELP

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Macrina View Post
My girlfriend is looking to buy a house - today i went and viewed it and while in the attic i saw steel cables every 3 feet that ran across the floor boards and where attached to beams on each side. The house appears to be in good structural condition but seeing this is concerning???

Can anybody help me understand why this was up in the attic and is it a bandaid to a much larger problem.

thanks
chris

I suggest that you contact Mass. inspector David Valley at;

978-683-4984
1-866-705-3100 (TOLL FREE)

http://www.masscertifiedhomeinspections.com/



Signed, Frank Carrio, CMI
Certified Master Inspector & Consultant
Certified Commercial Building Inspector
Certified, WDI Inspector
Founder & Current President, New Hampshire State Chapter NACHI
NACHI, State Representative for Legislative Affairs
Retired: ICC Certified Member
Retired: Code Compliance Inspector.
Retired: ASTM Committee Member
New Hampshire License #0096
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12/17/10, 9:58 PM
Bob Elliott's Avatar
Bob Elliott Bob Elliott is online now
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 21,905
Default Re: HELP

That does sound unusual and to bad there are no pictures.
In the old days they would do that to hold the outside walls together in case of fire.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12/17/10, 10:46 PM
Brian A. MacNeish Brian A. MacNeish is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: CANADA
Posts: 4,638
Please Note: Brian A. MacNeish is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
Default Re: HELP

[quote=belliott;722963]That does sound unusual and to bad there are no pictures.
In the old days they would do that to hold the outside walls together in case of fire. [/quote]

Never heard that before , Bob. I would assume that the cables were used as would be rafter ties or floor joists running side to side to prevent splaying of the house wall from the downward and outward action of the roof rafters.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12/17/10, 11:23 PM
Bob Elliott's Avatar
Bob Elliott Bob Elliott is online now
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 21,905
Default Re: HELP

They are called brick ties and the older buildings have them.
It was a response to the great Chicago fire of hmmmm guessing 1877.
They often get cut during rehab.

I will post a picture from one of my reports when I can dig it up but it is often found in old greystones and courtyard style buildings and placed closer to the middle than the attic.
Almost looks like a approx 12 inch piece of rebar hanging off the side walls when seen but hides in the subfloor areas.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12/20/10, 7:33 AM
Robert W. Jude's Avatar
Robert W. Jude Robert W. Jude is online now
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Lafayette, IN
Posts: 2,081
Default Re: HELP

or it was a repair because something was bowing/ sagging. is it possible the house has been moved?
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 12/21/10, 12:07 AM
Scott May's Avatar
Scott May Scott May is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Markdale, Ontario
Posts: 467
Send a message via Skype™ to smay
Default Re: HELP

Never have I seen cables in a house but might be method to their madness in an un- orthodox way. They cable limbs on trees and it works.
Definitely out of the ordinary.



Try not to become a man of success but rather to become a man of value!


WWW.eyespy-homeinspections.ca

Serving: Collingwood, Creemore, Dundalk, Durham, Flesherton, Hanover, Kincardine, Mansfield, Markdale, Meaford, Owen Sound, Port Elgin, Sauble Beach, Shelburne, Southampton, Stayner, Thornbury, Wasaga Beach and Wiarton.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12/27/10, 4:36 PM
Walter E. Bancroft Walter E. Bancroft is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Janesville, WI
Posts: 7
Default Re: HELP

Chris-- Is this a masonry structure? It is not unusual (at least in Wisconsin) to find such cables in older masonry homes. These were used to help keep the walls stabilized--especially if a fire should occur.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 12/27/10, 4:39 PM
Walter E. Bancroft Walter E. Bancroft is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Janesville, WI
Posts: 7
Default Re: HELP

Sorry Bob---I guess you already answered that. I just didn't read down far enough.

Walt
Reply With Quote
Need a home inspection in Michigan? Check out InterNACHI's listing of Michigan certified home inspectors. Or, find a home inspector anywhere in the world with our inspection search engine.
  #14  
Old 12/27/10, 6:35 PM
Mark A. Timpani, CMI's Avatar
Mark A. Timpani, CMI Mark A. Timpani, CMI is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 2,153
Default Re: HELP

what chuck said...




"Be Proud of Your Home, Go With Pride!"
'Not just a Home Inspection, but an Education'

Pride Property Inspections provides professional Home Inspections throughout Tucson and Southern Arizona including Pima, Cochise, Pinal, Santa Cruz, Graham counties.

Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:55 PM.


Popular Sections

:

All Sections

Inspection News

InterNACHI Membership

Inspection Standards

Inspection Education

InterNACHI Inspectors

Inspection Links

 

 

 

NACHI.ORG Statistics

 

 

no new posts