Help for industry vendors is coming soon.

[Nick Gromicko]

A recent thread on the InterNACHI message board (started by a non-member) contained a rumor which lead many vendors to believe that InterNACHI would promote their products and services in return for only 25% of the new sales we generate for vendors.

This false internet rumor caused InterNACHI to get bombarded from inspection industry vendors who "wanted in on the deal" thinking InterNACHI could generate them new sales.

Unfortunately, when a deal sounds too good to be true, it's usually because it is.

There simply is no financial way for InterNACHI to generate new sales for vendors in return for only 25% of those sales, especially on the low-ticket-price products and services commonly used by inspectors.... just not enough money in it to cover our costs. We have deleted the thread from our message board and apologize to any vendor who was mislead by it.

We realize that the current economic situation is particularly difficult on inspection industry vendors and we want to help. We are developing some options, above and beyond the free promotion that we currently provide vendors, that would cover our costs, provide a little left over funds to support InterNACHI member projects, and still be considered high-value to vendors. We hope to announce them soon.


Be assured that nothing we offer will eliminate the existing free exposure that vendors have always enjoyed. Providing free access to our members is almost unheard of in other trade associations of any industry, but we feel that our members benefit by having all options available to them. We encourage you to take advantage of this free exposure and want to assure you that we will continue to provide it to vendors into the future, at no charge:

• Access to the inspection industry's most popular message board (170 times the traffic of the next most popular). InterNACHI's message board has over 20,000 registered users and gets as many as 400 posts an hour. All inspection industry vendors can read and post with almost no limit. www.nachi.org/forum/
• Inclusion in InspectorMall.com. Provided that you offer an unbeatable, exclusive deal or discount to InterNACHI members, InterNACHI will link to you from the mall. www.InspectorMALL.com
• Exposure with the Daily Door Prize. InterNACHI will give away your product or service as part of InterNACHI's Daily Door Prize. Many play, many watch, only one wins. It is a great way to gain exposure in the inspection industry. www.nachi.org/dailydoorprize.htm
• Use of InterNACHI's Superior Product Seal. Approval required. www.nachi.org/productseals.htm
• Use of InterNACHI's Superior Service Seal. Approval required. www.nachi.org/productseals.htm
• Use of InterNACHI's Approved Education Seal. Available to schools and trainers who offer educational opportunities to inspectors. www.nachi.org/educationseal.htm

Best wishes to all inspection industry professionals for 2009.

Sincerely,


Nick Gromicko
Founder

[James H. Bushart]

Does this mean that vendors no longer "pay to play"?

By the way, you are lying again. I never said that vendors were required to pay 25% of new sales. This was your invention that you fabricated and added to the thread that you have since deleted.

[Nick Gromicko]

No vendor has ever paid us a penny for the free exposure they've always enjoyed.

Don't believe me? Call them all up and ask. Here they are: www.InspectorMALL.com

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by jbushart

Does this mean that vendors no longer "pay to play"?

By the way, you are lying again. I never said that vendors were required to pay 25% of new sales. This was your invention that you fabricated and added to the thread that you have since deleted.

Vendors get all this free... (as Nick stated)

• Access to the inspection industry's most popular message board (170 times the traffic of the next most popular). InterNACHI's message board has over 20,000 registered users and gets as many as 400 posts an hour. All inspection industry vendors can read and post with almost no limit. www.nachi.org/forum/
• Inclusion in InspectorMall.com. Provided that you offer an unbeatable, exclusive deal or discount to InterNACHI members, InterNACHI will link to you from the mall. www.InspectorMALL.com
• Exposure with the Daily Door Prize. InterNACHI will give away your product or service as part of InterNACHI's Daily Door Prize. Many play, many watch, only one wins. It is a great way to gain exposure in the inspection industry. www.nachi.org/dailydoorprize.htm
• Use of InterNACHI's Superior Product Seal. Approval required. www.nachi.org/productseals.htm
• Use of InterNACHI's Superior Service Seal. Approval required. www.nachi.org/productseals.htm
• Use of InterNACHI's Approved Education Seal. Available to schools and trainers who offer educational opportunities to inspectors. www.nachi.org/educationseal.htm

If they want more, then there may be some cost that have to be
covered to do more. What's wrong with that?

Regarding the 25% issue... that was the whole point of the contention.
25% is not enough commission to pay for the EXTRA expense it takes
to market a LOW DOLLAR item. It is so simple

I can tell some people have no concept of what it takes to market
someone elses product.

[James H. Bushart]

When a vendor pays Nick to play....how does that vendor recover his costs, usually?

Secondly, how will one know that a vendor is being promoted based upon his willingness to pay as opposed to the quality of his product? Will inferior products be promoted to members for their use by the association strictly based upon the vendor's willingness to pay money to Nick?

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by gromicko

No vendor has ever paid us a penny for the free exposure they've always enjoyed.

Don't believe me? Call them all up and ask. Here they are: www.InspectorMALL.com

LOL. You are good. Very good.

"No vendor has ever paid us a penny for the free exposure...."


....but vendors have paid you thousands of dollars for the status of being a "preferred vendor", haven't they?

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by jbushart

When a vendor pays Nick to play....how does that vendor recover his costs, usually?

Increased sales mean more profits per increased volume.
No need to raise prices. If a vendor does not like to
deal with someone, then they can go down the road.
No one is being forced to do anything. That is a lie.

Secondly, how will one know that a vendor is being promoted based upon his willingness to pay as opposed to the quality of his product? Will inferior products be promoted to members for their use by the association strictly based upon the vendor's willingness to pay money to Nick?

Some vendors provide things considered by some to be better
or worse than others. If everyone agrees and the members
have choices, then why do you care?

Oh my.

[Blaine Wiley]

Nick,

Stop the spinning, we get enough of that from the talking heads on TV.

We know vendors get free exposure. Jim never said we were charging 25%, that was a figure offered by a particular vendor.

Sometimes just saying nothing says it all. The spinning just makes dizziness.

[Nick Gromicko]

Blaine,

Yes, and the offer was rejected.

Jim writes:

LOL. You are good. Very good.

"No vendor has ever paid us a penny for the free exposure...."


....but vendors have paid you thousands of dollars for the status of being a "preferred vendor", haven't they?

Nope. Not a penny ever.

[Blaine Wiley]

Thank you,

I would consider 25% of gross sales for "advertising" to be a prohibitive amount, bordering on wise guy territory.

I've never owned or operated a company where the advertising budget was in excess of 8% of gross sales.

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Not a penny ever.

So....a vendor who claims that you receive $100 for each item he sells in order to be a "preferred vendor" is lying in his email?

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by bwiley

Thank you,

I would consider 25% of gross sales for "advertising" to be a prohibitive amount, bordering on wise guy territory.

I've never owned or operated a company where the advertising budget was in excess of 8% of gross sales.

If you can find someone who will market my class for 8%, I will be thrilled
(and my class is not considered a low ticket item).

By the time you pay people on the phone, office expense, phone bills,
printing cost, etc... you can see what I mean... 8% of a low ticket
items is not going to cut it.

[John McKenna]

But... the bottom line is... the vendor offered it and NACHI said no thanks.

No damage done and everyone has a choice.

[Nick Gromicko]

Well then Blaine, you sell a low-ticket item and keep the whopping 8% then. Email me and I'll tell you who the vendor is.

Jim, correct, I don't receive $100, or even 10 cents from any vendors.

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Well then Blaine, you sell a low-ticket item and keep the whopping 8% then. Email me and I'll tell you who the vendor is.

Jim, correct, I don't receive $100, or even 10 cents from any vendors.

Then, contrary to what McKenna posted, you have stopped "pay for play". Correct?