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Old 1/7/07, 7:08 PM
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I inspected a pool today and this was the junction box for a pool light. There should be a bonding conductor here right?
Also the pool light is centered at 18" below the water line. Is the >18" requirement to the top of the light?
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Old 1/7/07, 7:49 PM
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Default Re: help from the pool experts please

No bonding wire is necessary, only the equipment grounding conductor, which is present.

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Old 1/7/07, 7:51 PM
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Thanks Jeff!
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Old 1/7/07, 8:03 PM
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Did the GFCI work?
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Old 1/7/07, 9:16 PM
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Did the GFCI work?
That was my next question. I saw that the light was supposed to be GFCI protected, but where will I find it to test it?
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Old 1/7/07, 9:25 PM
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Could be near the pool equipment or in a sub panel or panel.

If you do not trip it yourself and/or can not find where to trip the GFCI, point that out in your report.

Just guessing, but I would bet the GFCI used to be in that J-Box.
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Old 1/7/07, 9:30 PM
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Thanks Brian.
No sign of it near the equipment. I'll take your advice on the report.
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BR,

You may find this useful:

http://www.mikeholt.com/files/PDF/Pooldownload.pdf

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Default Re: help from the pool experts please

The plastic box and conduit may not require it...but what about the metal chain link fencing? if thats what it is in the picture (not clear enough)...that would require bonding, correct?



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That's a great document Barry. I had downloaded it a few days before the inspection.

No chain link fence. The pool was enclosed. Ten years old.
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Default Re: help from the pool experts please

The pool cage which is aluminum would require bonding, though.

You had a 110v pool light on a house ten years old?



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The pool cage which is aluminum would require bonding, though.

You had a 110v pool light on a house ten years old?
Correct.
You would have expected 15V at 10 years?
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I have not seen a 110 volt pool light on a pool less than 25 years old in this area. Most are 12 or 24 volt.

I recommend replacement of 110 volt pool lights with low voltage models for safety.

But then, I'm a pain in the ....



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I have not seen a 110 volt pool light on a pool less than 25 years old in this area. Most are 12 or 24 volt.

I recommend replacement of 110 volt pool lights with low voltage models for safety.

But then, I'm a pain in the ....
Blaine, there is no doubt based on the photo of the J-box that it's a 110V light right? Do you think they were using up old stock when they put in this pool. It's in a subdivision where all of the homes are 12 years old or less.
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I have not seen a 110 volt pool light on a pool less than 25 years old in this area. Most are 12 or 24 volt.

I recommend replacement of 110 volt pool lights with low voltage models for safety.

But then, I'm a pain in the ....
Nice one Blaine

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