Hey Dan and Todd... any truth to this rumor?

[Nick Gromicko]

I heard that ASHI recently received a state contract to issue driver's licenses to teenagers. Each teenager, without taking a single course or a single exam is asked to go out and drive in public for 250 miles first, before getting their driver's license.

ASHI also bid on a similar contract to issue Medical Doctor's licenses to college freshmen. The college kids have to first perform 250 fee-paid surgeries for unsuspecting patients as the only way to achieve their M.D.

I heard that there is one ASHI M.D.-wannabee out there offering free amputations just to get his 250 surgeries in.

[Christopher Currins]

Originally Posted by gromicko

I heard that ASHI recently received a state contract to issue driver's licenses to teenagers. Each teenager, without taking a single course or a single exam is asked to go out and drive in public for 250 miles first, before getting their driver's license.

ASHI also bid on a similar contract to issue Medical Doctor's licenses to college freshmen. The college kids have to first perform 250 fee-paid surgeries for unsuspecting patients as the only way to achieve their M.D.

I heard that there is one ASHI M.D.-wannabee out there offering free amputations just to get his 250 surgeries in.

I thought that was only in Illinois.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by gromicko

I heard that ASHI recently received a state contract to issue driver's licenses to teenagers. Each teenager, without taking a single course or a single exam is asked to go out and drive in public for 250 miles first, before getting their driver's license.

ASHI also bid on a similar contract to issue Medical Doctor's licenses to college freshmen. The college kids have to first perform 250 fee-paid surgeries for unsuspecting patients as the only way to achieve their M.D.

I heard that there is one ASHI M.D.-wannabee out there offering free amputations just to get his 250 surgeries in.

Funny not nice but real funny .
I love it and it is the way it is at ASHI and ASHI north ( CAHPI/OAHI)

[dharris]

Originally Posted by gromicko

I heard that ASHI recently received a state contract to issue driver's licenses to teenagers. Each teenager, without taking a single course or a single exam is asked to go out and drive in public for 250 miles first, before getting their driver's license.

ASHI also bid on a similar contract to issue Medical Doctor's licenses to college freshmen. The college kids have to first perform 250 fee-paid surgeries for unsuspecting patients as the only way to achieve their M.D.

I heard that there is one ASHI M.D.-wannabee out there offering free amputations just to get his 250 surgeries in.

No I haven't heard this..
Do you have a link to this disturbing information.
I have heard that ASHI aka [ American Sociaty of Home Inspectors} www.ashi.org
"certifies" home inspectors only after an inspector takes an on-line proctered exam, provides documenation that the inspector auctually completed any inspections at all, and verifys by report review that the inspector has enough HI knowelge to provide an inspection report that meets ASHIs nationally reconised SOP, the same SOP that most states and other competing HI associations used as a guide line to form their own SOP.

I did hear that there is some guy[ from what I understand, he has an intersting / questionable past history in home sale negotations ] that created a joke of an on-line quiz to "certify" home inspectors.
From what I understand this guy will market anybody as a "certified home inspector" to the public, that claims they
passed his non proctored on-line quiz , From what I understand there are many non humans that passed this exam
pays him 289.00
then promise him they will complete other requirements, that not one person out of 10,000 newly certified inspectors can honestly state that ALL of the additional requirements were ever verified as completed.
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[Nick Gromicko]

Does ASHI verify that their "certified" members completed their required inspectors correctly (as you know... checking a small sampling of the reports for SOP compliance in an era where all the reporting software sold generates SOP compliant reports is meaningless). How does ASHI know that their certified members didn't do 250 inspections incorrectly? Do they send someone out to every inspection or what? ASHI certified my toilet-flusher (inspector helper) and he is still listed on ASHI's site.

[dharris]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Does ASHI verify that their "certified" members completed their required inspectors correctly (as you know... checking a small sampling of the reports for SOP compliance in an era where all the reporting software sold generates SOP compliant reports is meaningless). How does ASHI know that their certified members didn't do 250 inspections incorrectly? Do they send someone out to every inspection or what? ASHI certified my toilet-flusher (inspector helper) and he is still listed on ASHI's site.

Now Nick... You, all your members, and the public knows thats not possible.
Home Inspectors like someone getting their drivers, medical or any other lic. can only provide proof that they met the requirements by the licensing, or as home inspectors " certifiing " HI Orgs..
I do know for a fact that ASHI does require , verify, that inspectors complete required / approved CE for continued membership, many CE courses provided by ASHI and approved ASHI HI vender's provide report writing courses, from what I've seen these courses are very well attended by ASHI members, new or very experienced.

Your toilet helper.. Maybe you are very informed on HI SOP,[ Were you not once an ASHI member ? ] taught him well , allowing him to advance to acquiring the title ' ASHI Certified Inspector" the title, truth is very few inspectors will take the extra effort to complete ASHIs "certification" requirements, that exceed all other HI orgs in the country.
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[dharris]

Nick... Your loosing your touch..
This post has been around for quite a while and less than 300 views...

[dharris]

Originally Posted by Brian A. MacNeish

Geez!! Went out to do a wind driven rain leakage investigation this AM and all this broke out........I should stay home more and mind the house!!!

You never know what will happen on this soap
" As the nacho world turns"
Maybe one of nicks approved venders will come up with ...
HI t-bow [or someting like that] that transfers nacho soap posts to your mobile

[Ted Allen]

Nick,

Why in the heck would you involve me in your stupid little games? I am not affiliated with ASHI in any way.

[dharris]

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Originally Posted by gromicko

Does ASHI verify that their "certified" members completed their required inspectors correctly (as you know... checking a small sampling of the reports for SOP compliance in an era where all the reporting software sold generates SOP compliant reports is meaningless).

Nick... I agree all reporting software has data to provide SOP compliant reports..
I do know for a fact that many new inspectors do not know the SOP in full, fail to click required items, inspect required items ? to assure the HI report does meet the SOP.

Truth is, to the best of my knowledge there is only 1 reporting system out there that is capitable of not printing a report unless all SOP items are reported on. [SOP items still need to be deteremined by the inspector as a required item]

[dharris]

Originally Posted by tallen

Nick,

Why in the heck would involve me in your stupid little games? I am not affiliated with ASHI in any way.

NACHI .. Revenues/ Ratings/ BB views are down..

[Nick Gromicko]

You're right. It was more fun when NAHI was permitting their members to work to correct defects they find on their own inspections. The whole preferred vendor scheme thing just isn't as interesting.

[Bob Elliott]

Hi Dan..The reason may be that NACHI inspectors are busy marketing and getting work.
Is the ASHI site with it's declining and aging(as in losing eyesite) membership doing any better .
I have found many of the ASHI members to be sarcastic and baiting when it comes to posting threads in general,on every forum I have read.
This type of constant hate usually comes out of fear of the unknown.
It is a shame that associations membership would rather spread negative notions into the publics mind regarding hard working inspectors, rather than try to increase their confidence in the industry as a whole.
Why not just shoot yourself and get it over with.
If this kind of time was spent getting clients,there would not be so much time left over for sulking on the competetors web site.

[dharris]

Hi Dan..The reason may be that NACHI inspectors are busy marketing and getting work.

You may be correct.
I know I'm POd at nick and nachi members because last week I only scheduled 11 inspections, opposed to my normal 12-14, not to mention I only have 18 scheduled for June when I normally have 20-22 for the next month, by the end of the previous month..

[Ted Allen]

One more time Nick, or whomever is posting as you today..

Why did you include my name in this thread?