Hey Nick

[Jason1]

Originally Posted by rwand1

Jason

Fwiw, thats pretty much the way OAHI tabulates the members. The numbers flucuate from week to week, from month to month. Of course with a questionable membership list such as OAHI's who really knows what the numbers are. I just proved that at least one Director (Gerry Quackenbush) doesn't even know and is purposely misrepresenting the facts on his website. Nice! Real Nice!

One never really knows, do they.......

[Russel Ray]

Originally Posted by rwand1

Russel

A professional self regulating body should not have to offer such cash rewards.

Oh, come on, Ray. Picky, picky, picky. Are you a picky home inspector, too? A deal killer? Surely not! Surely not one of my Canadian friends! Tell me no!

[rwand1]

I am known for being thorough and honest. I don't like gimmicks, and anyone should be able to stand on their own merits, not those merits induced by cash offers.

[Nick Gromicko]

Jason, very roughly, there are a little over 200 members a month renewing on time, a little over 200 members a month renewing late (not shown at all on the EKG machine) and a little over 200 new members a month joining http://www.nachi.org/memberstats.htm

I believe we are the only inspection association that lists every member by name for all to see. Others use ambiguous overlapping geographic searches to hide their weak numbers.

[Nick Gromicko]

Also, if you really want to see who is actually joining... you can just go to the User List of the message board (NACHI requires members to log on to the message board www.nachi.org/membership.htm) and sort by join date. Each new user shows up as a NACHI member if they joined NACHI. http://www.nachi.org/forum/memberlis...e&pp=30&page=1

[Jason1]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Jason, very roughly, there are a little over 200 members a month renewing on time, a little over 200 members a month renewing late (not shown at all on the EKG machine) and a little over 200 new members a month joining http://www.nachi.org/memberstats.htm

Well, if you have 200 members a month that don't even show up on your graph, then it is not much of a valuable tool, is it?

Like I said before, roughly 4500 members is great, by your own admission above there is only around 6000 members, yet your stats say there are 8600 members. Yet only last month you were touting that the 10,000 member mark was upon us and everyone should hurry up and join before you close the doors......

Something is skewed....

Just trying to do the math

[Nick Gromicko]

The EKG tool was built for use by the Deadwood project so it is a "valuable tool" to them. Its initial purpose was to demonstrate for them the percentage of members who renew on or before their renewal date so that they could monitor their own success in trying to improve that percentage.

You are in correct again about my admission. I said that there are exactly 8,930 N. American members yesterday. Re-read slowly post #23.

Today there are EXACTLY 8,932 N. American members. http://www.nachi.org/nachi-stats.htm lists them instantly and automatically as they join, quit, or are removed from NACHI.

I believe we are the only inspection association that lists every member by name for all to see. Others use ambiguous overlapping geographic searches to hide their weak numbers.

[Jason1]

Originally Posted by gromicko

The EKG tool was built for use by the Deadwood project so it is a "valuable tool" to them. Its initial purpose was to demonstrate for them the percentage of members who renew on or before their renewal date so that they could monitor their own success in trying to improve that percentage.

You are in correct again about my admission. I said that there are exactly 8,930 N. American members yesterday. Re-read slowly post #23.

Today there are EXACTLY 8,932 N. American members. http://www.nachi.org/nachi-stats.htm lists them instantly and automatically as they join, quit, or are removed from NACHI.

I believe we are the only inspection association that lists every member by name for all to see. Others use ambiguous overlapping geographic searches to hide their weak numbers.

Ummmmm.... Ok

Any blind man can see there are many holes in your calculations, no matter how you spin it.

Let me know when you get to 9999, I might just relent and join to be the 10,000 member .....

BTW, only members can see your stats page.

[Jason1]

Originally Posted by gromicko

You are in correct again about my admission. I said that there are exactly 8,930 N. American members yesterday. Re-read slowly post #23.

You said there was 200 +/- a month that don't show up on the EKG graph, so add that to the roughly 400 +/- a month that renew or join and you get roughly 6000 members on a rotational basis. How do you account for the other 2900 ??

[Jason1]

BTW, I really like you Nick from having met you a few times, but I just don't understand your need to embellish when by all accounts NACHI is the biggest association (without the embellishment even).

[Michael Larson]

Jason1 you have not proved anything in your assertions. You don't have the resources to determine membership in NACHI Nick does. Case closed.

[klott]

Jason, you would be better off running the Save the Iceberg Foundation than worrying about nachi numbers, it will just lead to HEATED arguments and then someone will accuse you of global warming! JMO

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by Jason1

BTW, I really like you Nick from having met you a few times, but I just don't understand your need to embellish when by all accounts NACHI is the biggest association (without the embellishment even).

Having left NACHI I wonder why you are so concerned .
You seem to feel NICK should answer your questions .
If my memory selves me right I think you evaded many questions asked of you.
Why not just enjoy what you get for free and let the NACHI members consentrate on NACHI.
...... Cookie

[Nick Gromicko]

Jason, the rest are invisible members (members who either don't have their licenses and aren't allowed to advertise themselves yet, or are deployed in the military, or are behind in paying their dues, or whatever).

All visible members are listed in a link titled "Featured Inspectors" for all to count. This link appears on every page of NACHI.org: http://www.nachi.org/memberlist.htm Hit the "View all Featured Inspectors" link on that page. This isn't just a count, it is the actual information for each and every visible member.

Like I said, I believe we are the only inspection association that lists every member by name for all to see. Others use ambiguous overlapping geographic searches to hide their weak numbers.

Our N. American membership bounces between 8,000 and 10,000 and only once (a few months ago) did we accidentally allow it to climb to 10,015. It was pointed out by a member and corrected.

[Jason1]

Originally Posted by mlarson

Jason1 you have not proved anything in your assertions. You don't have the resources to determine membership in NACHI Nick does. Case closed.

Well, Mike has spoken. Case closed