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Old 11/15/07, 9:00 PM
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His window rough stud openings are, maybe at worst, 1-2% of his problem, if not sealed with low expansion foam. Peter, are you an experienced energy auditor/builder/retrofitter with a blower door and furnace efficiency test equipment also? You may need all those skills/equipment on top of IR to analyze his house. Does the house have an HRV? Are you familiar with their individual operating regimes?

We have a national energy audit program here in Canada that didn't include some of those critical parts- some of the recommendations coming out are way off base!!! For example: Replacing a good boiler that is 81% efficient at a cost of $4,000 will have a payback of 15-20 years. They didn't tell the owner that though!!!

Brian, I may be mistaken and if I am I'm sure you will let me know, but do you really have to discredit everything you read on this BB. Most of what we post are just snippets of what we are actually doing in our business.

Sometimes, in my opinion of course, you come across as a know it all and no I don't have a blower door and all the trinkets that go along with energy audits, which by the way is not what I'm doing.

Why don't you cough up the 289 bucks, join NACHI and stop slamming everyone because we don't do things like you do in your area
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Old 11/15/07, 9:02 PM
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Roy,

Congrats!!

Good luck with the new camera

Kevin
Thanks Kevin Much appreciated . I just keep plugging along .

Enjoy every minute of every day, The only way to fly .

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Old 11/15/07, 9:08 PM
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Peter .
I must have read Brian's report a little different then You.
I think he was wondering why those who in Canada who do the blower door test Talk people into buying a new furnace with a long pay back when the 81% furnace is very adequate .

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Old 11/15/07, 9:16 PM
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Roy,
To be honest with you I don't know where he's coming from, I never said I was doing a energy audit only that I booked a IR inspection to see if cold air is coming in around the windows due to lack of insulation, which is what my client requested and because he works at the nuclear power plant and sought me out because of my web site and was familiar with IR technology I assumed I was providing a service to him.

According to Brian I seem to be wrong.
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Old 11/15/07, 9:21 PM
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Help.
I just Got my new Flir Camera and have signed up for the level one course .
I understand there is a beginners course on the net.
I can not find it, has any one ideas on where it is .
I would like to go to class with a little more knowledge so I do not look to much like a gook when I get there .
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Damn Cookie....you beat me buying one...... ...glad to hear that..!!!

Now I have one more great inspector to take notes from...!!!

I think by the time I get one I won't need any schooling....its all right here....
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Old 11/15/07, 9:22 PM
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Roy,
To be honest with you I don't know where he's coming from, I never said I was doing a energy audit only that I booked a IR inspection to see if cold air is coming in around the windows due to lack of insulation, which is what my client requested and because he works at the nuclear power plant and sought me out because of my web site and was familiar with IR technology I assumed I was providing a service to him.

According to Brian I seem to be wrong.
Brian has done a lot of things and has much knowledge .
He has iterated me at times .
But then I should not talk I do some times irate people .

I too wonder why he has not Joined NACHI as he has much to offer and could get into the members area and also learn.
But we do have many who do help who have never joined .
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Old 11/15/07, 9:47 PM
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Roy, I agree, I value his posts on building science and the links he provides but sometimes he oversteps his boundaries, mostley, I think because he types quicker than he thinks.

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Old 11/15/07, 10:05 PM
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I booked a thermal inspection for a 10 year old house that the client has a hard time heating.
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Peter:

Above is the main problem you stated. Just filling fin or others that an IR camera may not the only item needed to find/solve the cause/s. Seems to be big move to IR on these boards. They're a great tool to have in a bag of tools that complement each other along with an in-depth knowledge of the systems they'll be looking at.

I presently supervise a gov low income retrofit program (on contract) and see 2-3 residential energy audits per week. Only 1 or 2 out of about 30 so far I would rate above B+. These are all private companies or NGO's; these folks are trained and certified!! As usual, do as many as you can and grab some $$$$. This is a pilot project of 75 homes, hoping to expand to 100's then 1,000's over the next 5-10 years. Some of the auditors will probably not be asked back to the table!!

Have been seeing a lot of crap by professionals in the last few weeks;another e-mail from a lawyer came in today for litigation against an award winning architect's work! A bit frustrating to see those with big reps/$$$ built on what???

Sorry if it my post came out like something personal.
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Old 11/15/07, 10:18 PM
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Peter:

Above is the main problem you stated. Just filling fin or others that an IR camera may not the only item needed to find/solve the cause/s. Seems to be big move to IR on these boards. They're a great tool to have in a bag of tools that complement each other along with an in-depth knowledge of the systems they'll be looking at.

I presently supervise a gov low income retrofit program (on contract) and see 2-3 residential energy audits per week. Only 1 or 2 out of about 30 so far I would rate above B+. These are all private companies or NGO's; these folks are trained and certified!! As usual, do as many as you can and grab some $$$$. This is a pilot project of 75 homes, hoping to expand to 100's then 1,000's over the next 5-10 years. Some of the auditors will probably not be asked back to the table!!

Have been seeing a lot of crap by professionals in the last few weeks;another e-mail from a lawyer came in today for litigation against an award winning architect's work! A bit frustrating to see those with big reps/$$$ built on what???

Sorry if it my post came out like something personal.

Brian, no problem, but we all have our daily problems and idiots we have to deal with but just because you seem to have to deal with an amount that may be in-proportionate in your area doesn't mean that's the case throughout both our countries.

Apology accepted and I look forward to more of your positive posts and links.

PS why don't you join NACHI?
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Old 11/20/07, 9:29 PM
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te:Originally Posted by gbeaumont
Here you go Roy, I took this course and found it pretty good, best of all it's free

http://www.infraredtraining.com/cour...cam_basics.asp

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Thanks to all great course ( I passed ) I am just a small bit smarter then before now I do feel better as when I take the level one course I just might understand what they are trying to teach me .
What a great bunch of Members on the NACHI site so much help so much information freely traded .
Thanks every body
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I have taken this course twice and Hope to do it once more before I do the level One .
Yes it is a great course lots of information ,Hope I get to retain it for a while .
Thanks to all .
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Old 11/20/07, 10:49 PM
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Way to go !!!



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Old 11/20/07, 10:52 PM
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Way to go !!!
The Course is Great but Members like John and many many more are even better .
This Membership and this BB are great .
Thanks again to all.
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Old 11/20/07, 11:34 PM
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Roy;

Call me you need me. (See below).

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Old 11/28/07, 8:33 AM
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Reporter Software Design Template Course.

Flir is reminding people about this course at the end of the level one Course .
Cost almost $400;00 for a the afternoon course.

My questions are has any one taken this course.
Is it a worth while course for home inspectors.
How big an advantage is it
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Old 11/28/07, 8:55 AM
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Reporter Software Design Template Course.

Flir is reminding people about this course at the end of the level one Course .
Cost almost $400;00 for a the afternoon course.

My questions are has any one taken this course.
Is it a worth while course for home inspectors.
How big an advantage is it
Thanks

...Cookie
Roy

IMO we should do this course. It is only a half day course and it sounds worthwhile.


See you at the course!!!





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