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Old 9/14/06, 5:08 PM
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Have you guys been noticing how the contractors are trying to screw just about everyone out of as much insulation as possible.

Even cellulose, which is cheap as hell.

I generally find 2-6 inches missing in all new construction.

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Old 9/14/06, 6:43 PM
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Like anything else, unless there is someone of authority in the Building Chain of command to babysit them to assure it is properly done, this is usually what happens.
Too, bad, but that is the truth.
Everyone is out there to make a quick buck.

Luckily I work for a General Contractor that uses mostly the same sub-Contractors on the Commercial jobs and is a lot easier to control quality and that is how we are able to negotiate our jobs instead of Bidding.

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What is that, about R-20?

About 50/50 Dale on newer homes haveing the correct insulation. No can lights or B-vents burried?



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Old 9/14/06, 7:41 PM
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Hi. Brian;

Up here Cellulose Blown in @ 5" is only an R-factor of 15.65 where a minimum of R-38 is required.
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What is that, about R-20?

About 50/50 Dale on newer homes haveing the correct insulation. No can lights or B-vents burried?
Insulation generally isn't deep enough to cover anything....... ...lately...
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Luckily I work for a General Contractor that uses mostly the same sub-Contractors on the Commercial jobs and is a lot easier to control quality and that is how we are able to negotiate our jobs instead of Bidding.

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You are lucky Marcel...because the whole construction industry has gone all to hell.....
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I agree Dale;

And even with a controlled environment as I do on performance and quality, I am seeing great changes in ethics, attitude, and performance on the outcome of a Project. Can handle it right now, but it is going downhill fast and when I lose control is when I hope I am retired and can leave it alone.
Maybe then I will enjoy full time Home Inspections.

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Old 9/15/06, 10:27 PM
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I agree Dale;

And even with a controlled environment as I do on performance and quality, I am seeing great changes in ethics, attitude, and performance on the outcome of a Project. Can handle it right now, but it is going downhill fast and when I lose control is when I hope I am retired and can leave it alone.
Maybe then I will enjoy full time Home Inspections.

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The biggest problem here is the fact nobody working in any trade speaks english, therefore they really don't have a clue what should be where because they can't read either looking at plans.

A lot of contractors are using that as an excuse "Well Guido must not of understood"

Their shellac-in everyone thay can....as many times as possible......

And as you know, not just with missing insulation....EVERYTHING....
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You are lucky Marcel...because the whole construction industry has gone all to hell.....
AMEN Dale!!
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You guys are starting to sound like grumpy old men.



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And whats the problem with that?? Squeaky wheel gets the grease!!!!
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And whats the problem with that?? Squeaky wheel gets the grease!!!!
So what does the greasy wheel get then, angioplasty?



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So what does the greasy wheel get then, angioplasty?
Brian; Pardon my French, but what the hell does that word mean?

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Brian; Pardon my French, but what the hell does that word mean?

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Old 9/18/06, 9:17 PM
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Thanks Brian;

I fluncked Biology when I went to High School. ha. ha. I guess if I could not relate it to a 2x4, it just would not sink in, like a footing pin, you know, ha. ha.

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