James Bushart proves Licensing is needed...

[Marcel R. Cyr]

Originally Posted by fcarrio

I think that Kenneth Lott like you …… is a good man.

I have had the pleasure to call him at his home and speak to him.

I am just trying to appeal to him as a Professional and point out the fact that ALL of our reputations are either enhanced or HARMED and DIMINISHED by what the PUBLIC sees on OUR message board.

I am sure that you have NOT noticed but I have stayed off of this message board for a long time because of all of the unwarranted friction and negativity that has been put on PUBLIC display.



In case you did not know it the Google / MSN "spiders & Bots" pick up these threads and negative comments.

• They are then on PUBLIC display for the rest of time!
• When a prospective client Google’s YOUR NAME and NACHI you would be absolutely floored as to how much TRASH comes up!

One extremely negative and slanderous thread had 16,000 “hits” on it and I personally lost an inspection over a client who “Vetted” me and came across this slanderous thread.

• I may have lost the business of a Real Estate company that has used me, and other local NACHI inspectors for years.
• As President of the New Hampshire State Chapter I received several phone calls and E-Mails from our members who told me that they were also losing jobs and their Professional Reputations were being harmed because of these types of slanderous threads!

The bottom line is…. We / NACHI as an association of Professional Home Inspectors do not need nor should we continue to tolerate threads that are going to harm us ALL as Professionals.

We should keep this in mind when we post for "The World to see"!

Thanks Frank and it is something to think about.

Look what comes up when I google my own name.

How did that get in there?

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[bdoles2]

Originally Posted by fcarrio

I am just trying to appeal to him as a Professional and point out the fact that ALL of our reputations are either enhanced or HARMED and DIMINISHED by what the PUBLIC sees on OUR message board.

I am sure that you have NOT noticed but I have stayed off of this message board for a long time because of all of the unwarranted friction and negativity that has been put on PUBLIC display.


In case you did not know it the Google / MSN "spiders & Bots" pick up these threads and negative comments.

• They are then on PUBLIC display for the rest of time!
• When a prospective client Google’s YOUR NAME and NACHI you would be absolutely floored as to how much TRASH comes up!

One extremely negative and slanderous thread had 16,000 “hits” on it and I personally lost an inspection over a client who “Vetted” me and came across this slanderous thread.

• I may have lost the business of a Real Estate company that has used me, and other local NACHI inspectors for years.
• As President of the New Hampshire State Chapter I received several phone calls and E-Mails from our members who told me that they were also losing jobs and their Professional Reputations were being harmed because of these types of slanderous threads!

The bottom line is…. We / NACHI as an association of Professional Home Inspectors do not need nor should we continue to tolerate threads that are going to harm us ALL as Professionals.

We should keep this in mind when we post for "The World to see"!

Totally agree...It's unfortunate that these "posters" don't understand the negative impact they have with their non-inspection related posts. Soon enough my membership will expire. It's too bad that all my posts will have to linger around for awhile.

It's a sad day when you realize the association that everyone once desired, turns into such an embarrassment that it's most helpful and knowledgeable inspectors no longer want to participate in the furthering of the inspection industry.

Truly sad...as the economy falters, so do the morals of associations and other businesses.

[klott]

Vindictive Schmuck comes to mind.

[Dale Duffy]

Jim stated:

Someone said to him......

A realtor who was considering him for a job typed in the following under Google: "(The Inspector's last name)", "NACHI" and "fraud".

Now that is quite ODD Jim-----

Of all the words in the English language available to Google and they just happened to use those words.....

You don't think someone is BS's you by any chance do you?--------

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by dduffy

Jim stated:

Someone said to him......



Now that is quite ODD Jim-----

Of all the words in the English language available to Google and they just happened to use those words.....

You don't think someone is BS's you by any chance do you?--------

I think there is a tint of manure in the air. Yes, indeed.

Unless that particular inspector raised those kind of questions in the realtor's mind...

In that case, he has more problems than just a message board.

[Dale Duffy]

Originally Posted by jbushart

Unless that particular inspector raised those kind of questions in the realtor's mind...

No....you think so?---------

[bjones5]

Originally Posted by mcyr

Thanks Frank and it is something to think about.

Look what comes up when I google my own name.

How did that get in there?

I google my name and I get some dead almost-rock star

[Christopher Currins]

Originally Posted by bjones5

I google my name and I get some dead almost-rock star

You should try it on YouTube.

[relliott]

My name gets a dead comedian for the first few pages.

[Frank M. Carrio, CMI]

Originally Posted by jbushart

To me, this is a humorous story, but I'll get knocked for telling it. You know me, though...

An inspector wrote me and asked that I call him, and I did. He complained that a thread that I had started cost him an inspection. I asked "How?" and this is exactly what he told me.

A realtor who was considering him for a job typed in the following under Google: "(The Inspector's last name)", "NACHI" and "fraud".

Allegedly, the thread that related to the convicted felon who called the vendor and threatened him came up...and the realtor denied him the referral, refusing to do business with anyone from an association that hires or deals with convicted felons.

Now, as I reflect upon this....I have to ask myself some questions. The first and most significant is....what kind of a schmuck must I be to have left such an impression with a realtor who wants to know more about me to type in my name, along with the words "nachi" and "fraud" under Google? He or she must have had some pretty strong suspicions about me to begin with. Why not type the inspector's name, "nachi" and "honorable man" or "home inspector" or "professional"? Why "fraud"?


Secondly, a "slanderous" thread is one that contains lies. When people are hurt because of things actually done by NACHI that reflect bad upon them ("certified inspectors" who never tested, the deal concerning Peter Tafeen, etc) .... they should work hard to hold their leaders accountable to change.

• Much like Nick's response to the vendor scandal by providing a more visible and honest program, for example.
• Jim....... With ALL due respect...... You {Jim Bushart} should NOT be taking credit for ANY of Nick's "New" programs!
• Your thread did not "Create" anything "new" all it did was hurt our reputation as a Professional and Ethical association!

I just wanted to share this for your consideration.

Jim,
Make fun of me all you want.... call me names....I stand by my statement....

Quote:
I am sure that you have NOT noticed but I have stayed off of this message board for a long time because of all of the unwarranted friction and negativity that has been put on PUBLIC display.


In case you did not know it the Google / MSN "spiders & Bots" pick up these threads and negative comments.

• They are then on PUBLIC display for the rest of time!
• When a prospective client Google’s YOUR NAME and NACHI you would be absolutely floored as to how much TRASH comes up!

One extremely negative and slanderous thread had 16,000 “hits” on it and I personally lost an inspection over a client who “Vetted” me and came across this slanderous thread.

• I may have lost the business of a Real Estate company that has used me, and other local NACHI inspectors for years.
• As President of the New Hampshire State Chapter I received several phone calls and E-Mails from our members who told me that they were also losing jobs and their Professional Reputations were being harmed because of these types of slanderous threads!

The bottom line is…. We / NACHI as an association of Professional Home Inspectors do not need nor should we continue to tolerate threads that are going to harm us ALL as Professionals.

We should keep this in mind when we post for "The World to see"!
End Quote:

[nwagner]

Originally Posted by jbushart

When Chris Morrell "outed" you as the anonymous "red square" giver with the foul language and exceedingly crude remarks....you objected that what he did was wrong, too.

Huh?

[Kim Bergey]

Here's NACHI using a picture



Do a google image search for "tubgirl".

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by nwagner

Huh?

You had to be fast. The post was made...then deleted...on 5/18/08.

In a nutshell, a member received a terribly vulgar and abusive message attached to a "red box" signed "Love, Mom" and blamed Frank. Frank denied the charge and insisted on proof. The member requested this proof from Chris Morrell who then posted and provided the proof that it was from Frank, copying the entire message in all of its flaming vulgarity.

Frank went ballistic and, after a few of us (including me) went to bat for him, Nick had the post "outing" him deleted (along with the entire thread) for it contained the vulgar words and abusive message (from the anonymous red box) that was very, very not appropriate for the message board.

Frank will not deny this. Too many folks have copies of the email transactions involving this post.

I am sharing this information for one reason...and that is for you all to consider these factors when reading from these people how important it is (to them) that "others" be censored.

For instance, after the threads I that I had started revealed some of the embarassing "happenings" behind the scenes at NACHI...Frank led a minority effort among ESOP members to have me forever banned from posting anything on the message board. This seemed very hypocritical to me after having helped bail him out of his "Love, Mom" scandal.

It's like proponents of licensing who (as most do) see licensing as something that is necessary "to control the other guy".

If I know Frank, he will consider this post to be "slanderous", too. Remember...slander, to be slander, must be untrue.

[Frank M. Carrio, CMI]

Originally Posted by jbushart

You had to be fast. The post was made...then deleted...on 5/18/08.

In a nutshell, a member received a terribly vulgar and abusive message attached to a "red box" signed "Love, Mom" and blamed Frank.
Jim,
My old friend……A “terribly vulgar & abusive” message?

This “charge” coming from you? This is like "The Kettle calling the Pot Black"! ROTFLMAO!

I was responding to an antagonistic / vulgar message left by another member!
I did not want to engage him in a long and drawn out argument so I "Wished him a Nice day" as YOU have done to some many others!

Frank denied the charge and insisted on proof. The member requested this proof from Chris Morrell who then posted and provided the proof that it was from Frank, copying the entire message in all of its flaming vulgarity.

Frank went ballistic and, after a few of us (including me) went to bat for him, Nick had the post "outing" him deleted (along with the entire thread) for it contained the vulgar words and abusive message (from the anonymous red box) that was very, very not appropriate for the message board. Frank will not deny this. Too many folks have copies of the email transactions involving this post.



Not Very appropriate?

• It was MILD compared to what I have received from "Love Mom"!
• I have received Red Squares signed , Love Mom, Luv Mom and Luv Mum, that would blister the paint off of the walls.
• The language was mild compared to what YOU and others have posted. So...... Once again ROTFLMAO

I am sharing this information for one reason...and that is for you all to consider these factors when reading from these people how important it is (to them) that "others" be censored.
You are “Sharing This” for one reason and one reason only…. And that is in a attempt to discredit one of YOUR STAUNCHEST SUPPORTERS who cannot and will not support and or condone your recent actions.

For instance, after the threads I that I had started revealed some of the embarassing "happenings" behind the scenes at NACHI...Frank led a minority effort among ESOP members to have me forever banned from posting anything on the message board. This seemed very hypocritical to me after having helped bail him out of his "Love, Mom" scandal.
Jim,

I cannot count the times that I have supported you and come to your aid in your "fights". So...... Thanks for YOUR help!

• I NEVER that that I would see the day that you would throw it back in my face!
• Also..... If I thought that you were right in your recent attacks I would back you up. But...... you are SO WRONG that it isn't even funny!
• I ask you......Step back and take a "Good Hard Look" at what you are doing!

It's like proponents of licensing who (as most do) see licensing as something that is necessary "to control the other guy".

If I know Frank, he will consider this post to be "slanderous", too. Remember...slander, to be slander, must be untrue.
.

No Jim….. I do not see this as “Slanderous”….. I see this as a sad and pitiful attempt to embarrass, humiliate, and discredit ONE OF YOUR “FRIENDS” AND ONE OF YOUR STAUNCHEST SUPPORTERS!

• I will say this….. YOU sure know how to burn bridges!

I guess that we will just have to agree to disagree unless you take this to another level.


What a sad, sad day for you.... for me..... and for NACHI!

[James E. Braun, CMI]

I always wondered what happened to Frank. The sad part is, he is a member of the ethics committee. How many more ethic committee members will we find out has no ethics? Amazing, simply amazing!