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I take a mean shorthand. Comes from having short stubby fingers.




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Well said Cookie! I don't see myself listed, but I was a proud member.

Thanks for everything Pops!
I don't see my name on there either. What is this list of, anyways?




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Anytime. All anyone had to do was call and ask. It's unfortunate that a couple of our members jump the gun and assume. I never received one phone call or email from anyone.




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I don't see my name on there either. What is this list of, anyways?
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Anytime. All anyone had to do was call and ask. It's unfortunate that a couple of our members jump the gun and assume. I never received one phone call or email from anyone.
I think one of the reasons for that, John, is that you rarely give any straight answers since the tape recording incident at the Florida convention.

For instance, your continued insistence that you were neither the "founder or owner" of this NUPI thing ....as it is repeated....almost sounds as if you are claiming no involvement with it at all, while you ignore the posts that name you on at least one of its committees.

You started a thread called "Let's talk NUPI..." but you have not said anything.

Let me take a stab at it and see what happens.

If NUPI was a "research center" as you referred to it in your first post, why did it publish (then hide) a code of ethics and standard of practice for conducting a home inspection for its "members"?



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I think one of the reasons for that, John, is that you rarely give any straight answers since the tape recording incident at the Florida convention.

For instance, your continued insistence that you were neither the "founder or owner" of this NUPI thing ....as it is repeated....almost sounds as if you are claiming no involvement with it at all, while you ignore the posts that name you on at least one of its committees.

You started a thread called "Let's talk NUPI..." but you have not said anything.

Let me take a stab at it and see what happens.

If NUPI was a "research center" as you referred to it in your first post, why did it publish (then hide) a code of ethics and standard of practice for conducting a home inspection for its "members"?
Fair question.

My assistance was asked for and I agreed, however, I had no obligations or interest in the outcome or financial side of it. Similar to the C & H Insurance benefits coming out. I worked with Schuyler and his Boss (Jim) for a couple of years on that. See episode 20 of NACHI-TV. I had the pleasure of talking with both Schuyler and Jim on several occasions on the E & O side of the equation. The Health Care and Life Insurance is new and a huge plus for NACHI members.

They actually created a suggested code of ethics and standards of practice for individuals to use within their own business practices. However at the same time NUPI was establishing membership requirements so that if someone was to be banished from their licensed state for example, it gave NUPI (just like NACHI, ASHI, etc.) a leg to stand on to eliminate the unethical inspector, appraisor, building official, participant, etc. with no problems.

Again now that you have brought up the subject of NACHIGATE perhaps we should revisit it. Tomorrow I will begin a list of anyone and everyone I can remember talking to at the 2005 Convention. Perhaps then, you can go to each one of them and drill them with questions. Of course, then again, you apparantly have heard some type of tape or something wherein you can publish its contents here so that we are all on the same page. Of course I will expect a copy of this so called taping and transcription for obvious reasons.

PS. Don't make this site anything more than what it is. A working site, not a formal or permanent site for anything. What you see there today may be something new tomorrow. It was a great place to put things on the internet without any exposure to be worked on.




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Old 2/7/08, 10:29 PM
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Fair question.

They actually created a suggested code of ethics and standards of practice for individuals to use within their own business practices. However at the same time NUPI was establishing membership requirements so that if someone was to be banished from their licensed state for example, it gave NUPI (just like NACHI, ASHI, etc.) a leg to stand on to eliminate the unethical inspector with no problems.

Again now that you have brought up the subject of NACHIGATE perhaps we should revisit it. Tomorrow I will begin a list of anyone and everyone I can remember talking to at the 2005 Convention. Perhaps then, you can go to each one of them and drill them with questions. Of course, then again, you apparantly have heard some type of tape or something wherein you can publish its contents here so that we are all on the same page. Of course I will expect a copy of this so called taping and transcription for obvious reasons.
I was referring to the timing of NACHI-gate...not the incident, itself. That was a pivotal point in time.

Back to NUPI.

Why would a "research center" feel the need to "eliminate" anyone from reading from its material? What difference would it make to NUPI if a licensed inspector was reading its newspaper telephone listing or one whose license was suspended or revoked?



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Hmmm. Nothing I remember working on.




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I was referring to the timing of NACHI-gate...not the incident, itself. That was a pivotal point in time.

Back to NUPI.

Why would a "research center" feel the need to "eliminate" anyone from reading from its material? What difference would it make to NUPI if a licensed inspector was reading its newspaper telephone listing or one whose license was suspended or revoked?
I imagine that they planned on having a membership listing that included their state and license number. Just another area for internet exposure and advertising of the business and service. I really don't know. You're asking the wrong person.




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I was referring to the timing of NACHI-gate...not the incident, itself. That was a pivotal point in time.
I don't understand. Are you saying that I released the bogus information? If that is what you are implying, I agree, the timing sucked.




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I really don't know. You're asking the wrong person.
You are the person who started the thread..."Let's talk NUPI", who carried the NUPI logo as his avatar for several weeks, and lamented that no one contacted you before making assumptions....right?

(Hhhmmmm...yes.....straight answers since the convention. That's what we are looking for.)

Okay. Let's try this one.

You have said that you are not the "founder and owner" of NUPI. What was and/or is your role at NUPI?



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Hmmm. Nothing I remember working on.
You have a very convenient memory
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I don't understand. Are you saying that I released the bogus information? If that is what you are implying, I agree, the timing sucked.
No.

I am not aware of the bogus information that you are referring to. I am only aware of a tape recording made of a conversation you had with several members trashing the association and people you worked under, at that time. The person who released it was/is a member who was quite taken back to travel the distance that he did to a national convention to hear the (then) Executive Director speaking about NACHI, Nick etc....as you did, and he made a clear recording of the conversation for others to listen to.

But that is not what I was referring to.

I was referring to the timing...as to how....since that happened, you have been much like you are being in this thread; extremely coy and "bill clintonish" with things depending upon exactly what the meaning of "is" is...for instance. I remember a time that you were more of straight shooter than you have been since the time of that incident.



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You are the person who started the thread..."Let's talk NUPI", who carried the NUPI logo as his avatar for several weeks, and lamented that no one contacted you before making assumptions....right?

(Hhhmmmm...yes.....straight answers since the convention. That's what we are looking for.)

Okay. Let's try this one.

You have said that you are not the "founder and owner" of NUPI. What was and/or is your role at NUPI?
Absolutely nothing other than providing a temporary working space.

The creator/founder/owner or whatever you want to call it had an idea and approached me with that idea. I agreed to voluntarily help. It started out to be strictly for home inspectors and morphed from there to include commercial inspectors, building officials, legislators, homeowners, buyers, sellers and whatever.




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