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Old 11/20/07, 10:58 PM
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Default Meth house need fast acurate advice.

Today I accepted an assignment. At the end of the conversation the buyer says, oh and this was a meth house we are buying. Police broke down front and back doors, boarded for now. This is the first time I have run into this situation, inspecting a known meth house. I pulled the current listing and there is no mention of a meth bust, meth anything. I need out of this and it would not bother me to just say I’m not qualified to inspect a known meth house, and I’m not. What is your advice?
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Old 11/20/07, 11:06 PM
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Default Re: Meth house need fast acurate advice.

From the sounds, you aren't inspecting a house for Meth, you are inspecting a meth(and/or meth byproducts) contaminated house. Is the money worth it?

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Old 11/20/07, 11:23 PM
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Default Re: Meth house need fast acurate advice.

Hi to all,

Personally I would call this guy, and only this guy for advise:

http://www.inspection-perfection.com...s/Caoimhin.htm

BTW, I would also turn the job down, until I had a clearance notice in my hand!!

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Old 11/20/07, 11:25 PM
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I don't know that it is contaminated, it sounds like it is or was talking to the out of state buyer that has never seen the property. I think I will just call them in the morning and excuse myself from this assignment due to lack of "meth house training." I have no experience with meth.
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Old 11/20/07, 11:31 PM
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Dan,

Numerous advisemnets on previous threads
http://www.nachi.org/forum/search-756940.html

this one has great info Post 11
Caoimhín P. Connell
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www.forensic-applications.com
http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthrea...ght=meth+house

Gerry,
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Old 11/20/07, 11:40 PM
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exactly I would not do a meth house myself.
Read and talk to Caoimhín P. Connell I have talked to him he is great.
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Old 11/21/07, 12:19 AM
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Hi to all,

Here is a better link to Caoimhín (pronounced Queeveem (hates been called Kev or Kevin )(closest Engish translation, kinda!)

http://www.forensic-applications.com/

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Default Re: Meth house need fast acurate advice.

Bow out, Meth addicts are known to boobytrap their houses. They are EXTREMELY paranoid.

Entering the house would make me EXTREMELY paranoid.
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Old 11/21/07, 10:50 AM
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Good morning, Gents – from freezing Colorado.

I was thankful to be told about the current threat since I haven’t had much time visit the board in the last few months.

I’d be happy to share thoughts, experiences and suggestions if someone needs some help. I will watch the thread for a week or so.

Everyone have a bountiful Thanksgiving!

Cheers!
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Old 11/21/07, 8:16 PM
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WOW!!! Thanks for posting the thread and special thanks for respondents I read all the links. It's a good day I learned something. By the way, the map is probably way off as it is from 2002. But the picture of the dead girl still applies.
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Old 11/21/07, 8:47 PM
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Hi Caoimhín,

welcome back to the asylum, where you been hiding? you've been missed

Happy thanksgiving to you and yours

Slainte

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Old 11/21/07, 9:03 PM
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Default Re: Meth house need fast acurate advice.

I personally would not do an inspection on a Meth house.
We had a narcotics detective come speak at our NACHI chapter meeting
some time ago, and what a revelation about problems with Meth!
He basically told us that if we were to come across the signs of a Meth Lab, i.e. materials, suspicious items too numerous to mention here, that we were to walk away, and have the Realtor for the property contact the police.

Cleaning a previous Meth Lab property is almost cost-prohibitive, if it was a real Meth Lab. Its a VERY expensive cleanup, and very hazaradous to your health.




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Default Re: Meth house need fast acurate advice.

Quote:
Originally Posted by swaskewicz
I personally would not do an inspection on a Meth house.
We had a narcotics detective come speak at our NACHI chapter meeting
some time ago, and what a revelation about problems with Meth!
He basically told us that if we were to come across the signs of a Meth Lab, i.e. materials, suspicious items too numerous to mention here, that we were to walk away, and have the Realtor for the property contact the police.

Cleaning a previous Meth Lab property is almost cost-prohibitive, if it was a real Meth Lab. Its a VERY expensive cleanup, and very hazaradous to your health.
Hi Steve,

I totaly agree, I know from case studies that Caoimhín has published that this is just not an area for the average inspector.

I have seen somewhere a list of the top 10 reasons to suspect a Meth home, Caoimhín, if it was a piece of yours please post it again, and again, and again.

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Old 11/21/07, 10:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dblanchard
Today I accepted an assignment. At the end of the conversation the buyer says, oh and this was a meth house we are buying. Police broke down front and back doors, boarded for now. This is the first time I have run into this situation, inspecting a known meth house. I pulled the current listing and there is no mention of a meth bust, meth anything. I need out of this and it would not bother me to just say I’m not qualified to inspect a known meth house, and I’m not. What is your advice?
I want to thank you on a personal level for having brought this to my attention, having many years in the proffession my ego occasionally prevents my logic from kicking in. Meth lab, so what, has nothing to do with my inspection-right -wrong, not if I know about it beforehand. Wow, what a revelation, twenty disclaimers to write. Not worth it. Read all the info folks you all stand to benefit from it.
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Dan, send me an email with your tel#.

Russ (at) cdainspector.com

We can pull a fast EDR report on it, which will give all the known environmental issues on this property.
If methed up, it will provide you with the data you need to back out.
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