MSFH - Home Inspector Fired In Dispute Over Pay

[gporter]

Who were the other 4 companies fired.

He should file a lien on the Gov Mansion

[Dale Duffy]

Originally Posted by gporter

He should file a lien on the Gov Mansion

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[gbeaumont]

Originally Posted by rbennett

And if the WEC does not pay the inspector for a good inspection that the state has accepted then what???

In fairness Richard, I have heard from no inspectors who have not been paid for completed work, further as the state have been paying out on unaudited inspections, they (the State) have the right to withold payment (via clawback) from WCE's who have submitted incomplete inspections.

I know from several WCE's that they have paid prior employees for work that has been rejected by the state during the auditing period.

BTW, most of the WCE's figured out real early on that home inspectors were much more acurate than the insurance adjusters who they also hired to do these inspections.

Regards

Gerry

[gbeaumont]

Originally Posted by gporter

Who were the other 4 companies fired.

Gary, no other companies were "fired" the contacts ended this month and several were not extended to January when the state will be contracting for these services again.

Regards

Gerry

[David B. Manley]

If the WCE's were doing their job by hiring qualified individuals, they would still have their contracts. It is too bad so many homeowners had to complain in order for the state to step up to the plate and enforce policy.

[gporter]

i remember being at the training and a guy from PSI (boss) was there taking the training and he told all the inspectors looking for work that he already had his people. He was not even trained yet. But he had his guys.

[James H. Bushart]

If you think this state run folly has turned into a fiasco...wait until you see your licensing law enacted.

[Jose F. Uz]

Maybe this letter & exhibits (attachments) from a South Florida Attorney to multiple government officials may shed some light on the issues with My Safe Florida Homes, the WCE's and the battle that is being fought to preserve our constitutional right to work while protecting the public interests and our tax dollars.

This was in response to a letter written by Florida's CFO Alex Sink asking our State reps to revive the MSFH program.

Thanks to all, remember if you agree with the attached contact your State rep in writting and protest the WCE monopoly.

Jose’ F. Uz, CRC, CPO, CHI, CHC, M-NFPA, FHA-I, FABI & NACHI Certified Inspector
President
CaribbeanRealty Support Services, Inc.

[Steven C. Meyer]

Originally Posted by gbeaumont

Hi to all,

Richard, the states agreement with the WCE's is that they only get paid for properly completed inspections, most of the WCE's contracts with the inspectors states that they will only get paid when the state has accepted the inspection.

All the inspectors are aware of this and signed contracts agreeing to those terms.

Regards

Gerry

Properly completed inspections?? How is that determined? Does the state reinspect each house, spot check, or is the report graded on correct spelling and grammer?

Properly completed can mean different things to different people, and government is notorious for poor training of those doing the over seeing. Ever had any contact with Social Security? Medicare??? Ask 5 people the same question, and you will get 8 different answers!!

I am NOT defending this company at all, they probably cut corners, and it was THEIR responsability to hire qualified people, and oversee and correct problems. If the inspector did a shoddy job, pay and fire him on the spot. keeping him on, then fireing him, so as to get out of paying what is due is a scam.

Nice to see that this company got their "just rewards"!!

If I fire an employee, I still am required to pay him for hours worked, even if his performance was poor.

[acox]

I see absolutely no reason for the state to use this "WCE" system, except to provide an unfair advantage to these companies.

1. There is no difference between a non-WCE inspection and a WCE-inspection. Obviously, the WCE's are not performing quality assurance on their contractors' inspections, except after the fact as shown in the article. The market can better regulate quality - good inspectors will be referred and bad inspectors will not.
2. The MSFH program already gives loopholes where inspections can be done by non-WCE's - engineers, contractors, etc. So, the state cannot be guaranteed the quality of the inspection, and they do not have any data collected.
3. The only advantage to use the WCE system is to the WCE's.

[Carl Pennick]

Originally Posted by Steven C. Meyer

Properly completed inspections?? How is that determined? Does the state reinspect each house, spot check, or is the report graded on correct spelling and grammer?

Properly completed can mean different things to different people, and government is notorious for poor training of those doing the over seeing. Ever had any contact with Social Security? Medicare??? Ask 5 people the same question, and you will get 8 different answers!!

I am NOT defending this company at all, they probably cut corners, and it was THEIR responsability to hire qualified people, and oversee and correct problems. If the inspector did a shoddy job, pay and fire him on the spot. keeping him on, then fireing him, so as to get out of paying what is due is a scam.

Nice to see that this company got their "just rewards"!!

If I fire an employee, I still am required to pay him for hours worked, even if his performance was poor.

I know what happened with this inspector. It was not just 1 or 2 bad inspections he was committing fraud and was lucky he was not taken to court. He was not going to all the houses and he was forging people’s signatures.

Would you still have paid him for these inspections?

[Carl Pennick]

Originally Posted by acox

I see absolutely no reason for the state to use this "WCE" system, except to provide an unfair advantage to these companies.

1. There is no difference between a non-WCE inspection and a WCE-inspection. Obviously, the WCE's are not performing quality assurance on their contractors' inspections, except after the fact as shown in the article. The market can better regulate quality - good inspectors will be referred and bad inspectors will not.
2. The MSFH program already gives loopholes where inspections can be done by non-WCE's - engineers, contractors, etc. So, the state cannot be guaranteed the quality of the inspection, and they do not have any data collected.
3. The only advantage to use the WCE system is to the WCE's.

It is the insurance company’s that will not allow home inspectors to sign the OIR form not the state. The WCE program runs out in June I would not mind betting that even once there are no WCE's the insurance company’s will still not accept OIR's signed by home Inspectors.

[Steven C. Meyer]

[QUOTE=cpennick;512911][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I know what happened with this inspector. It was not just 1 or 2 bad inspections he was committing fraud and was lucky he was not taken to court. He was not going to all the houses and he was forging people’s signatures.Would you still have paid him for these inspections?

IF, what you say is true, then NO, he should not be paid, and should have been sued to recoup any money he was paid for any other reports that were found to be fraudently submitted.

Further, forgery is a criminal matter, and should have been dealt with accordingly.

Bottom line, the company who hired him, has the responsibility and liability of any fradulant reports he submitted.