NACHoo looses almost 3,000 members

[dharris]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Sorry about www.nachi.org/shazam.htm Dan, but you insisted on getting in the ring and calling me on. I feel bad about it but I had to throw that knock out punch.

Dan?

DAN!!!?

Dan, you OK?

Hey... someone get the Doctor! Dan! Dan!

His eyes are rolled up inside his head... someone get the Doctor!

Is he breathing?

DAN! DAN!

Oh my God, I think www.nachi.org/shazam.htm killed him!

DAN! Are you OK?

Ohhh but nickie.
Your forgetting to disclose that the majority of ASHI members have taken a proctored exam. I also didn't notice where you stated, the ones that haven't, are not marketed to the public as "certified" inspectors.
Now we don't want to start having embarrassing posts to our profession and [embarrasing to many of your members,] revisited, made on this site by some of your new inspectors that are marketed to the public as "certified " inspectors , do we?
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[Nick Gromicko]

Are you referring to the 92% pass-rate NHIE?

You aren't counting that are you?

[Frank M. Carrio, CMI]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Are you referring to the 92% pass-rate NHIE?

You aren't counting that are you?

Here is some useful information.

In the last three days I requested and received over 2,000 questions that are on the NHIE.

http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthread.php?p=343309#post343309

Originally Posted by jbushart

Are you dealing with a state legislature that might be seriously considering the NHIE as an entrance test for home inspectors?

Have your favorite congressman email me and I will send him 980 questions and answers to the NHIE that was recently sent to me, as a free bonus, when I bought some practice questions for the ICC exam.

I can prove to anyone who needs proof that the test has been compromised and that it....and its answers....are for sale on eBay.

I will not pass them on to other inspectors, presently, as I consider the ethical ramifications. I will, however, help you convey to your state that this test is a meaningless tool.

[Nick Gromicko]

Shazam! www.nachi.org/shazam.htm

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Sorry about www.nachi.org/shazam.htm Dan, but you insisted on getting in the ring and calling me on. I feel bad about it but I had to throw that knock out punch.

Dan?

DAN!!!?

Dan, you OK?

Hey... someone get the Doctor! Dan! Dan!

His eyes are rolled up inside his head... someone get the Doctor!

Is he breathing?

DAN! DAN!

Oh my God, I think www.nachi.org/shazam.htm killed him!

DAN! Are you OK?

Too funny!! You walked into that one Dan!, [just in case Google spiders do their thing] Danny,Dann,Dannella,Danniel.

[John McKenna]

dharris is am a hostile poster who is on the level of bozo the clown. All his post should be considered nothing more than spam from an idiot and do not represent a sound mind or the views of InterNACHI.

Get a life Dan.

[dharris]

Originally Posted by fcarrio

Here is some useful information.

In the last three days I requested and received over 2,000 questions that are on the NHIE.

http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthrea...309#post343309

Considering the source of this information, and the fact this person stated, on this site, that he will lie or do what ever it takes to defeat licensing, one would have to question the validly of this information.

Secondly, if a person can remember 2,000 questions and answers, I dought he or she would consider this profession.
If a person could and chose to do HI I have no dought he or she would be a darn good inspector.
Thirdly... Your arguing that your open book non-proctored exam against an exam that is recognized by several states for licensing.

[Nick Gromicko]

States must use MINIMUM STANDARD exams.

One might ask why the NHIE, which contains some questions that appear to be difficult, has such a high pass-rate, while InterNACHI's exams, which contain some questions that appear to be easy, have such low pass-rates?

Here is the answer: http://www.nachi.org/examsthatharm.htm

[Frank M. Carrio, CMI]

Quote:
Originally Posted by dedwards
Dan,
I purchased a CD off the INTERNET in 2005 that was supposed to be a study with sample questions off the NHIE. Costs me $19 and got to me in a couple days.

• I did it to prove to someone who didn't believe such a CD even existed and that is was readily available.

I went through it and in fact many of the questions were strictly code questions that had absolutely nothing to do with home inspections.

The majority of those questions dealt with construction applications and "how" to build something rather than what it's purpose was.

One in particular that stands out was doing concrete estimation. There were others on fasteners, etc. I wish I had my $19 back as I had nor have any intention of using it. Ive heard from several other sources that there is always a lot of code type questions on the NHIE or whatever the name is this year.

In fact I had one fella tell me that if you study just the code Check books you can squeek through the test.
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Quote: Frank Carrio:
I bought the EXPENSIVE Carson Dunlop / ASHI course and the LESS expensive Roy Newcomer "American Home Inspector's Training Institute" study program and I sailed through the test!
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[dharris]

Originally Posted by gromicko

States must use MINIMUM STANDARD exams.

One might ask why the NHIE, which contains some questions that appear to be difficult, has such a high pass-rate, while InterNACHI's exams, which contain some questions that appear to be easy, have such low pass-rates?

Here is the answer: http://www.nachi.org/examsthatharm.htm

Hmmm. I am positive that I could find at least a couple hundred posts on this BB made by your "certified " inspectors that do not agree that the nacho exam is easier than the NHIE..

[Frank M. Carrio, CMI]

Quote:
Originally Posted by fcarrio Here is some useful information.

In the last three days I requested and received over 2,000 questions that are on the NHIE.

http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthrea...309#post343309

Originally Posted by dharris

Considering the source of this information, and the fact this person stated, on this site, that he will lie or do what ever it takes to defeat licensing, one would have to question the validly of this information.

Secondly, if a person can remember 2,000 questions and answers, I dought he or she would consider this profession.
Wrong, some of us LOVE this profession!

If a person could and chose to do HI I have no dought he or she would be a darn good inspector.
Thank You!

Thirdly... Your arguing that your open book non-proctored exam against an exam that is recognized by several states for licensing.

How about an "Open Book Proctored exam"? Think they are easy?

Try taking any one of the "Open Booked" ICC proctored exams and then tell me how easy they are!

[Nick Gromicko]

InterNACHI's exam is more difficult to pass than the NHIE for two reasons: One is the scoring system which punishes (in terms of score) exam takers severly for failing to correctly answer "easy" questions (questions every inspector should know the answer to) while not rewarding (in terms of score) them for answering them correctly. Read http://www.nachi.org/examsthatharm.htm

and...

Our passing cut-off score (80) is much higher than the NHIE, so you have to correctly answer a larger percentage of questions. Read: http://exams.nachi.org/stats.php (takes a few moments to download as it complies data live).

Anyway, you can join ASHI and be a "member" and be counted as a "member" without passing any exam: www.nachi.org/shazam.htm

[Frank M. Carrio, CMI]

Originally Posted by dharris

Hmmm. I am positive that I could find at least a couple hundred posts on this BB made by your "certified " inspectors that do not agree that the nacho exam is easier than the NHIE..

Dan,
For once you are right! ............. I have taken the EBPHI / NHIE and............
I DO NOT AGREE that the NACHI exam is easier than the NHIE!

I think that the NACHI exam is harder!

[Nick Gromicko]

Also, InterNACHI's exam has only a 40% pass rate DESPITE it being open book. Imagine if it was closed book, it would have even a lower pass rate. NHIE has a very high pass rate DESPITE it being closed book. Imagine if it was open book, it would have even a higher pass rate.

When you make the apples oranges or the oranges apples, the difference in difficulty between them becomes even greater.

[Frank M. Carrio, CMI]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Also, InterNACHI's exam has only a 40% pass rate DESPITE it being open book. Imagine if it was closed book, it would have even a lower pass rate. NHIE has a very high pass rate DESPITE it being closed book. Imagine if it was open book, it would have even a higher pass rate.

I tried to find the "link" to this information. I need to send it to our Legislators by Tuesday.

Any information a a "NACHI Proctored Exam" that I can send them?

How many states recognize the NACHI exam for licensing?