NACHoo looses almost 3,000 members

[klott]

Originally Posted by dharris

Ohhh but nickie.
Your forgetting to disclose that the majority of ASHI members have taken a proctored exam. I also didn't notice where you stated, the ones that haven't, are not marketed to the public as "certified" inspectors.
Now we don't want to start having embarrassing posts to our profession and [embarrasing to many of your members,] revisited, made on this site by some of your new inspectors that are marketed to the public as "certified " inspectors , do we?
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Now that is scary! I went with an ashi inspector who passed the NHIE, two weeks ago, he did not even know what a disconnect next to an Air Handler was, not to mention everything else he did not know. But when I told him he should join Nachi, he said he tried, but could not pass our online exam, so he joined ashi til he could learn about home inspecting. I have had 2 ashi inspectors do this in about a 3 month period.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by Brian A. MacNeish

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IMO, this is Nick's method of getting more and more newbies!! SCENARIO: "HHHMMM!!! Let's have a look on this site....and look....you can take a free test.....Holy-moly!!....I got a 65.....If I do a little bit of work or take the test until I eventually pass it, after all.........it's FREEEEEEEEEE!!!!! Pay my $289......promise to do a bunch of things that are not verified...Hey, I'm A CHI!!"

It is sad, Roy. Wonder what's the highest # of times someone took the test in order to pass it?

The site may help the public a bit but with more and more posts from non-members, it raises the hits and get him to the top of Alexa. There is a method to his actions!

Yes and OAHI has averaged just over 200 RHIs for ever and about 400 ~ students .
The students do no take an exam just pay the money honey and give us lots more for all the courses we want you to take .
( Our Directors need your money ) and in about three years you can see we are not wanting about 98% of those poor soles who have been hung out to dry.
How about telling us how many in you area have tried to become Home inspectors in the CAHPI system in the last 4 years.
You say NACHI is not Good well a long way ahead is this great CAHPI system of screw them quick and often.
Been there heard the stories they are given about how great OAHI is and seen them slowly slide away.

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by klott

Now that is scary! I went with an ashi inspector who passed the NHIE, two weeks ago, he did not even know what a disconnect next to an Air Handler was, not to mention everything else he did not know. But when I told him he should join Nachi, he said he tried, but could not pass our online exam, so he joined ashi til he could learn about home inspecting. I have had 2 ashi inspectors do this in about a 3 month period.

Were these "inspectors" fully certified/registered or whatever the highest standing is in ASHI or were they candidates/associates that just joined and passed the NHIE? Can be big difference? Why were you with ASHI inspectors?......mentoring? then I would expect such a question.

[klott]

Originally Posted by dharris

If you don't like ASHI don't bash them yourself or support or promote an org that does.

I worked hard, and continue to work hard to be the best I can in this profession, by 1st becoming a member, then earning a nationally recognized certification. Why should I lower myself by paying some one for an instant certificiation, and one that bashes my commitment to our profession ?
Dan, that's what he was asking you, why do you repeat his questions?


Yep that true. Same with ICC to be a member,

In other words, why did you join ashi?

[dharris]

Originally Posted by klott

Now that is scary! I went with an ashi inspector who passed the NHIE, two weeks ago, he did not even know what a disconnect next to an Air Handler was, not to mention everything else he did not know. But when I told him he should join Nachi, he said he tried, but could not pass our online exam, so he joined ashi til he could learn about home inspecting. I have had 2 ashi inspectors do this in about a 3 month period.

Whats really scary is comments made to me from nacho members about their own members, that are marketed as "certified" inspectors to the public.
If you want to, or are ready to play tit for tat let me know..

[Bob Elliott]

I see Mr Harris totaly ignores questions when he has no negative answer. Post #47

[klott]

Originally Posted by Brian A. MacNeish

Were these "inspectors" fully certified/registered or whatever the highest standing is in ASHI or were they candidates/associates that just joined and passed the NHIE? Can be big difference? Why were you with ASHI inspectors?......mentoring? then I would expect such a question.

They had recently joined,(06) and passed the NHIE, yes I was mentoring them, but still, how can the NHIE be passed by someone who cannot identify a disconnect, or even know how to insert the breaker, if it is so hard? He called me downstairs because he could not turn the Heat pump on.

[klott]

Originally Posted by dharris

Whats really scary is comments made to me from nacho members about their own members, that are marketed as "certified" inspectors to the public.
If you want to, or are ready to play tit for tat let me know..

Dan. at least the way it is done here, shows that the member has enough knowledge of inspecting, to get started in this profession.The questions on the exam are never the same, so that proves one must have a working knowledge at least.Sure, there are probably members in both orgs, who should not be inspecting,my point is, don't hold up the NHIE, as being the only surefire way to tell.

[dharris]

Originally Posted by relliott

Dan since I joined NACHI
1) my business has increased .
2) I have taken many on line courses.
3) I get questions I need answered fast on this active Board
4) I belong to the NACHI local chapter
5) We take turns riding along and helping each other in the field
6) We have very reasonably priced CE classes
7) Illinois online NACHI courses are now approved by the state
I have made freinds rather than enemies of competition as we realise the real competition is to have clients aware of our trade.
9) Nick gives out so many free prizes it pays for membership.

DAN HARRIS why would I want to join ASHI and what can they do for me that is better.?
Thanks for your reply.

All one has to get the same thing from all HI orgs is join them and participate in the local org.
One big difference between one or the other, mentors have 10-20-or even 30 yrs experience, you have the opportunity to hang out with many that wrote, and are still involved in writing building codes..

Responce on BB. Sure some of it is good, problem is with the exception of 2 or 3 members, most valid info is provided by non-members, other information provided may or may not be right.

With the excetion of info provided by a select few, Do you want to tell your customer info from a know it all, that provides info by reading a book, or do you want info from someone with knowelge in the field.

Free stuff.. I'll trade quality mentoring from seasoned inspectors everytime.

I do have to admit, I'm a little jealous I cannot learn or with hang out with a know it all, 3 yr wannte be master certified [ dork with an orange shirt.]
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[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by relliott

I see Mr Harris totaly ignores questions when he has no negative answer. Post #47

Yep, Does it all the time.

Long, long, history of doing just that.

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by rcooke

Yes and OAHI has averaged just over 200 RHIs for ever and about 400 ~ students .
The students do no take an exam just pay the money honey and give us lots more for all the courses we want you to take .
( Our Directors need your money ) and in about three years you can see we are not wanting about 98% of those poor soles who have been hung out to dry.
How about telling us how many in you area have tried to become Home inspectors in the CAHPI system in the last 4 years.
You say NACHI is not Good well a long way ahead is this great CAHPI system of screw them quick and often.
Been there heard the stories they are given about how great OAHI is and seen them slowly slide away.

Sounds like you have problems in Ontario!! What is it about your province?

Similar kind thing happened with the wood heating industry in the mid-late 90's.......splinter group of sweeps, I believe, wanted to set up and have a training center for all wood industry on a members' rural sanctuary cum camp/cottage....so who may get benefits from that??? Anyway, National head office took over the administration of WETT affairs for Ontario then and saved face for the local industry. Still don't know if an Ontario WETT org re-formed.

That hasn't happend locally. If anything our chapter is growing stronger....less infighting, more respect internally. Looks like we have added another 18-20 members over the last 2-3 years....about a 45% increase. Just heard recently that a NACHI member has applied for membership!!

[dharris]

Originally Posted by mlarson

Yep, Does it all the time.

Long, long, history of doing just that.

Yea and some have a long, very long history of forgetting they asked the same question several times in the past.

[gporter]

Your losing Dannie

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by dharris

Yea and some have a long, very long history of forgetting they asked the same question several times in the past.

Keep spinning dharris, you'll screw your self in so deep you'll end up in China

[Joe Farsetta]

How very sad for poor Dan...

Dan Harris was, at one time, a member of this organization.

He has not been a member for some time.

He is a regular poster on our forums.

He never has anything positive to say about this organization.

Those that know him, or know of him, generally take a dim view of his actions.

As the saying goes, "actions speak louder than words". Look to his actions with regard to InterNACHI. Consider the motive. Consider the negative spin about virtually EVERYTHING.

Research his posts. Go back as far as you wish. It's all the same.

Consider all of this. Then ask yourself "why"...

Line #1: Dan Harris was, at one time, a member of this organization. He has not been a member for some time.

Again, consider the source. Consider the motive.

Fill in the blanks.

If every benefit advertised doesnt exactly materialize or manifest itself as advertised, so what? A baseball batter doesnt need a perfect hitting record to slam 'em out of the ballpark.

At the end of the day, the real question is whether being a member of InterNACHI helps you, or doesnt. Did we score a home run, or didnt we?

The answer, IMO, is a resounding YES.

As to the rest, all inspections have "green" inspectors. The difference with this org is that we at least require members, even "newbies" to first PASS the exam. Can ASHI say that? No. Can NAHI? No.

The arguments against NACHI are weak.