New, flat-rate, no-haggle, vendor affiliate program.

[Nick Gromicko]

A recent false rumor on this message board implied that InterNACHI was offering to take on all the costs and risks of bringing inspection-industry vendors additional business in return for 25% of that new business. Unfortunately such a deal is financially impossible for InterNACHI. The sales commissions alone that we'd have to pay to move low-ticket-price products and services (typically used by inspectors), simply would not cover our costs.

Anyway, this rumor spread and inspection-industry vendors, thinking we could double their business in return for only 12.5% of their gross (25% of the new business we could bring them) began contacting InterNACHI, wanting "in on the deal."

This response caused us to see if there were some things we could do to help vendors out in these difficult economic times, which are particularly tough on inspection-industry vendors, and if InterNACHI, the industry's largest trade association, could provide promotional opportunities that have, until now, been unavailable.


Staff and members suggested the following general guidelines for an affiliate program:

• be no-haggle, flat-rate, so that negotiations are kept to a minimum.
• not deteriorate member's existing access to vendors on the message board or mall.
• be published publicly for all to see.

We have developed a proposed affiliate program that we think abides by these guidlines. Here it is: www.nachi.org/target.htm

[James H. Bushart]

Although you have lied about the motivating factor...it is refreshing to see you come clean and produce a program that does not shame the profession.

Congratulations.

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by jbushart

Although you have lied about the motivating factor...it is refreshing to see you come clean and produce a program that does not shame the profession.

Congratulations.

Bring out the truth!!

[James E. Braun, CMI]

There you go, Nick! Thats the way to do it.

[Rick Maday]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Staff and members suggested the following general guidelines for an affiliate program:

• be no-haggle, flat-rate, so that negotiations are kept to a minimum.
• not deteriorate member's existing access to vendors on the message board or mall.
• be published publicly for all to see.

We have developed a proposed affiliate program that we think abides by these guidlines. Here it is: www.nachi.org/target.htm

Well done.

[Nick Gromicko]

Bushy, thanks for the compliment, I think.

[Michael R. Boyett]

Yes, the reasoning behind it leaves something to be desired (like one of my bait-cast backlashes...spun around so many times it looks like a bird's nest ) but the program looks equitable & promising, at least at first glance.

[James H. Bushart]

When Nick's representative threatened John Onofry in order to get him to provide InterNACHI with money, John offered 25% of his gross on new business. He was told that this was not enough and would have to come up with more, or he would be forced out of business.

In the second thread entitled "NACHI's New Relationship With Its Vendors", which Nick ultimately ended up deleting (as he did the first thread by that name) after he was overwhelmed by angry posts from members, he unsuccessfully tried to make it appear as if John had actually asked for InterNACHI assistance and had offered 25% of his gross in order to get it.

None of that was true. Nick could not convince anyone that it was true. As a result, he deleted the thread and started this one....misquoting the nonsense he tried to start before.

The bottom line is, he has agreed to stop dealing in the dark. One fee for all vendors...passed on to members who buy the product. It is nothing more than any other association is doing, but for Nick....it's a big step and I congratulate him.

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by jbushart

When Nick's representative threatened John Onofry in order to get him to provide InterNACHI with money, John offered 25% of his gross on new business.

In the second thread entitled "NACHI's New Relationship With Its Vendors", which Nick ultimately ended up deleting after he was overwhelmed by angry posts from members, he unsuccessfully tried to make it appear as if John had actually asked for InterNACHI assistance and had offered 25% of his gross in order to get it.

None of that was true. Nick could not convince anyone that it was true. As a result, he deleted the thread and started this one....misquoting the nonsense he tried to start before.

The bottom line is, he has agreed to stop dealing in the dark. One fee for all vendors...passed on to members who buy the product. It is nothing more than any other association is doing, but for Nick....it's a big step and I congratulate him.

Now......can you get him to stop lying to the public about "certification" , stop selling/giving away "certification", make mentoring mandatory for newbies, stop lying about other organizations, etc., etc..............you know the spiel..................

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by Brian A. MacNeish

Now......can you get him to stop lying to the public about "certification" , stop selling/giving away "certification", make mentoring mandatory for newbies, etc., etc..............you know the spiel..................

Mandatory mentoring is nothing more than a scheme used by home inspectors who want to profit from licensing laws.

Nick's decision to sell "Certified Home Inspector" designations to realtors for $289 is between he and his members. Theirs are the reputations at risk...let him convince them that it is a good idea. I don't think he can.

As for the rest...you and I will have to agree to disagree.

[James E. Braun, CMI]

Originally Posted by jbushart

The bottom line is, he has agreed to stop dealing in the dark. One fee for all vendors...passed on to members who buy the product. It is nothing more than any other association is doing, but for Nick....it's a big step and I congratulate him.

Agreed. This was the whole purpose of bringing things to this open board.
Lets move on, and if any vendor still feels that he has been miss treated I am sure Nick will listen and make it right. He has shown over the years a steady track record of doing this. NACHI appears to have hit one out of the park on this deal. No other organization has such full disclosure on their relationships with their vendors than NACHI does now. This is a proud day for NACHI.

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by jbraun

Agreed. This was the whole purpose of bringing things to this open board.
Lets move on, and if any vendor still feels that he has been miss treated I am sure Nick will listen and make it right. He has shown over the years a steady track record of doing this. NACHI appears to have hit one out of the park on this deal. No other organization has such full disclosure on their relationships with their vendors than NACHI does now. This is a proud day for NACHI.

Right on.

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by jbushart

Mandatory mentoring is nothing more than a scheme used by home inspectors who want to profit from licensing laws.

You can have mandatory mentoring without having licensing and it can be free or low cost!! Mario was offering a "Tag along" opportunity the other day.......is he charging......I don't think so.

Nick's decision to sell "Certified Home Inspector" designations to realtors for $289 is between he and his members. Theirs are the reputations at risk...let him convince them that it is a good idea. I don't think he can.

He has so far.....or..... is it he has just kept the membership in the dark and they didn't know the difference......or ......are so dazzled by the glitter of the freebie trinkets he throws around, that they just can't see the truth or alternatively choose to turn a blind eye, then take another drink of Kool-aid?

I still believe: Loyalty is bought here!!

As for the rest...you and I will have to agree to disagree.

So you are still drinking a watered down Kool-aid!!

After these last episodes that have shown members (if they were truly concerned) some of the behind the scenes working of this organization, someone has decipher the spinning to the public........our paychecks...... the folks we claim we try to protect in their house purchases. But with the administration here, the spin is to actually hide the truth from the public!!! WEB FICTION

Where can the public see that all an HI claims on his website is true?
Online overnight certification is never mentioned to the public!!! (remember them??)

SPIN!!! SPIN!!! SPIN!!! but never mention all the FACTS!!!

[James H. Bushart]

When I joined NACHI in 2004, it was a home inspector association and a damned good one.

Since then...the bottom fell out of the market and there are fewer recruits for home inspector associations. Does that affect me? No. But it affects Nick and his business plan.

Thus...he has proclaimed a new direction for NACHI. He creates the illusion that a market actually exists for amateur chimney inspectors, writes an SOP and creates training for it.....to attract new members (not to be "mere home inspectors", but "inspectors"). He has created the illusion of the existence of other markets as well to attract people into this new...whatevertheheckitis association.

But the home inspectors who are here represent nothing more....and nothing less....than the full gamut. We have inspectors with 25+ years in business and we have members hoping for their first booking.

Should a consumer select a home inspector because of his membership with NACHI? Of course not....no more than a consumer should automatically think that an ASHI membership assures quality, or that a Porter-Cable chain saw won't kickback.

Will a consumer find a better home inspector if they seek one who commits to an SOP, a COE and continuing education....than they will find from one who shuns any affilliation at all? Probably.

That is the closest we can ever come to any kind of assurance coming from membership with an association. After that, each man competes on his own merits and accomplishments.

[nwagner]

Originally Posted by Brian A. MacNeish

Now......can you get him to stop lying to the public about "certification" , stop selling/giving away "certification", make mentoring mandatory for newbies, stop lying about other organizations, etc., etc..............you know the spiel..................

Are your marketing skills deficient enough that you have to worry about the "qualifications" of all other inspectors?