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Old 4/10/08, 10:36 PM
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Default Re: New MICB department to audit CMI designees and new applications

So Mark if you are as bright as you claim, do you condone Joe F. actions against Roy who had nothing to do with the event?

Do you condone Frank Carrio's foul laced emails?

Do you condone the tone and language and intimidation of emails sent to Roy from some of the ESOP committee?

Are you sure you are following the rules? I was following the rules until someone decided to set me up and abuse the rules.

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Old 4/10/08, 10:52 PM
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Mark

I am sure Roy would be happy to pass onto you those very questionable unethical emails. Remember there are 3 sides to the story. My version, your version, and the truth.
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Old 4/10/08, 11:08 PM
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Mark

That would be an excellent idea. I have suggested to Nick to do what you suggest this very evening. It would also be best to constitute a new ESOP with policy provisions in place via bylaws. That way everyone is on the same page and knows their respective rights. Remember too, as with any other professional body, an appeal s process is also a right.

If the antics of some of the ESOP continue Nachi will suffer.

Thanks for asking.
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Old 4/10/08, 11:18 PM
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Mark

Public court has no jurisdiction, any private self regulating body has procedural standards. Its called an administrative tribunal with the right to appeal to an outside court. ASHI has it so do the Canadian associations of record except NACHI. Sure there are rules but as repeatedly evidenced, Frank has broken the rules as has Joe F. and Bushart. Sorry your theories do not muster or warrant what has and is taking place.
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Old 4/10/08, 11:42 PM
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I have a law enforcement background to. In Ontario we do things differently, so the US model does not work up here and is not tailored to Canadian standards for self regulating bodies.
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Old 4/11/08, 4:41 AM
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[quote=Raymond E. Wand]So Mark if you are as bright as you claim, do you condone Joe F. actions against Roy who had nothing to do with the event?

Do you condone Frank Carrio's foul laced emails?
For the Record:
YOU "Ray Wand" have signed my name to this alleged "Foul Mouthed" message to Roy.

Do you condone the tone and language and intimidation of emails sent to Roy from some of the ESOP committee?
I am unaware of ANY foul mouthed E-Mails sent to Roy Cooke!

Are you sure you are following the rules? I was following the rules until someone decided to set me up and abuse the rules.
Ray your wild eyed accusations about being "set up" do not hold water!
EVERYONE knows that you were asked to delete your posts and instead YOU challenged the President of NACHI and the ESOP to kick you out.
YOU were in complete control of this situation.

YOU got what you wanted!

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Welcome Frank Carrio our newest member![/quote]

Since there is more than one Frank Carrio in this world I gave you the benefit of the doubt. I did not think that you would be so stupid as to put my name on your website as "A Member".

I was disgusted to see that not only are you using my name but also my Website on your "Bulletin Board".

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I demand that you delete my name and website information immediately!
  • You posted my information without my knowledge and without my permission!
I do not want to be associated with your psychotic actions in any way shape or form.



Signed, Frank Carrio, CMI
Certified Master Inspector & Consultant
Certified Commercial Building Inspector
Certified, WDI Inspector
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NACHI, State Representative for Legislative Affairs
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Old 4/11/08, 5:05 AM
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Originally Posted by mroe
Ray,
I have a question for you? What if and I say what if, we totally removed all ESOP members and installed all new members. Would that make you and Roy happy?
Mark,
If all of the members of the ESOP would resign today Ray & Roy would find something else to complain about.

They "pick a target" and then hound them from thread, to thread, to thread, to thread until the matter dies down and then ....... They do it again, and again, and again!

Ray Wand was kicked out for a Code of Ethics violation. He was asked to delete his posts and the matter would have been dropped.

Instead he chose to challenge the authority of the President of NACHI and the authority of the ESOP Committee.

Ray Wand was in complete and total control of this situation. Roy Cooke's wild eyed accusations of a "4-Hour Decision" are pure fantasy!


But...... You know what....... ALL of this is OLD news and has been discussed over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over and over, and over again!

Now..... Ray Wand has signed my name to an alleged message, signed my name to an "Enrollment" on HIS so called Bulletin Board, and listed MY WEBSITE on his so called bulletin Board!

I am not a lawyer but I think that this idiot has stepped over the line and I will soon find out if he has!

This should give you and ALL of our members a clearer picture of the kind of psychotic individual / stalker that we are dealing with.

Ray Wand has stated.... "I am Back, and I am Stronger that ever!" Well I guess that he believes his own obnoxious ranting and ravings!



Signed, Frank Carrio, CMI
Certified Master Inspector & Consultant
Certified Commercial Building Inspector
Certified, WDI Inspector
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NACHI, State Representative for Legislative Affairs
Retired: ICC Certified Member
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Old 4/11/08, 9:08 AM
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Default Re: New MICB department to audit CMI designees and new applications

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YOU "Ray Wand" have signed my name to this alleged "Foul Mouthed" message to Roy.

Do you condone the tone and language and intimidation of emails sent to Roy from some of the ESOP committee?
I am unaware of ANY foul mouthed E-Mails sent to Roy Cooke!
Frank can you prove that? Are you calling Member of the Year a liar?

I think you are a liar Frank, you prove you are the type James has referred to here:

http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthrea...=27592&page=10

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Old 4/11/08, 9:20 AM
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I encourage everyone to visit Ray's little BB.

member list:

http://www.gogetforum.com/memberlist.php

16 members, most fake.

At least several of which are the same person.

Less than 50 posts total

"Association's" logo is hosted on Mr. Wand's site

http://www.raymondwand.ca/jpg/cfihi.jpg (note the url)

I think someone talks to himself over there.



He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors - Thomas Jefferson - Founding Father

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson

Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.
- Henry Rosovsky-Harvard

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Old 4/11/08, 9:23 AM
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Default Re: New MICB department to audit CMI designees and new applications

Mark

I thought there was hope for you, but I see you have had too much of the Nachi Kool Aid, and I doubt whether what you say transpired actually did! There are an awful lot of liars on this board!
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Old 4/11/08, 9:25 AM
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Worth repeating

I encourage everyone to visit Ray's little BB.

member list:

http://www.gogetforum.com/memberlist.php

16 members, most fake.

At least several of which are the same person.

Less than 50 posts total

"Association's" logo is hosted on Mr. Wand's site

http://www.raymondwand.ca/jpg/cfihi.jpg (note the url)

I think someone talks to himself over there.



He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors - Thomas Jefferson - Founding Father

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson

Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.
- Henry Rosovsky-Harvard

Michael Larson
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Services provided in East MN and West WI
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and
Minnesota Home Inspector

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Old 4/11/08, 9:25 AM
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Default Re: New MICB department to audit CMI designees and new applications

Michael

I guess the site is fake like you, and you plying your trade on an unsuspecting consumer!

Go here and sign up!
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Old 4/11/08, 9:27 AM
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Worth repeating again

I encourage everyone to visit Ray's little BB.

member list:

http://www.gogetforum.com/memberlist.php

16 members, most fake.

At least several of which are the same person.

Less than 50 posts total

"Association's" logo is hosted on Mr. Wand's site

http://www.raymondwand.ca/jpg/cfihi.jpg (note the url)

I think someone talks to himself over there.



He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors - Thomas Jefferson - Founding Father

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson

Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.
- Henry Rosovsky-Harvard

Michael Larson
Hudson, WI

Services provided in East MN and West WI
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and
Minnesota Home Inspector

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Old 4/11/08, 9:47 AM
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Default Re: New MICB department to audit CMI designees and new applications

Thanks Michael I appreciate you sending members to the new home discussion board, I see Frank Carrio has signed on, maybe you will find the time too!

Spend time here:
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Old 4/11/08, 9:48 AM
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Default Re: New MICB department to audit CMI designees and new applications

Worth repeating again and again

I encourage everyone to visit Ray's little BB.

member list:

http://www.gogetforum.com/memberlist.php

16 members, most fake.

At least several of which are the same person.

Less than 50 posts total

"Association's" logo is hosted on Mr. Wand's site

http://www.raymondwand.ca/jpg/cfihi.jpg (note the url)

I think someone talks to himself over there.

Is anyone surprised?



He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors - Thomas Jefferson - Founding Father

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson

Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.
- Henry Rosovsky-Harvard

Michael Larson
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Services provided in East MN and West WI
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and
Minnesota Home Inspector

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