Nick, NACHI, and Bushart

[James E. Braun, CMI]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Oh would you stop with the convicted felon stuff already. Read the freakin' case. Peter's company did exactly what the other 2 companies did in declaring it as income. Did any AOL executives even get charged? No. Because the prosecutor in Virginia didn't think there was anything wrong with it. Did any Cendant executives even get charged? No. Because the prosecutor in New Jersey didn't think there was anything wrong with it. No one lost a penny, the company grew into a multi-billion dollar powerhouse.

If I had 2 small children at home, was making millions of dollars and had to choose between 12 jurers/a young prosecutor trying to make his mark/possibly 30 years in jail... and... 10 months on an Air Force base lifting weights... I'd have agreed to a 1 count plea too.

There is a reason that no other executive in all these companies involved in all this round trip money ever got sentenced.

That's all beside the point anyway, because I already agreed to handle all vendor negotiations personally from here on out. How long are you going to dip from that well Jim?

Let me try to explain by way of an example:

I know ITA was started by ASHI presidents. But I like ITA. InterNACHI had booth space at their conventions, they had booth space at ours. They put InterNACHI links and InterNACHI logos all over their site. Their instructor did a NACHI.TV show. I presented for ITA myself. I'm personal friends with their executives.

But business is business. I flew to San Diego and met with them and explained that it is absurd that they charge InterNACHI members the same tuition as diploma mill association members. They didn't see it my way. I didn't take it personally. We're all big boys. Instead I flew home and did this: www.nachi.org/education.htm Did I intend to force them to close down their schools? No. It is simply a consequence of my belief that InterNACHI members deserve affordable continuing education.

Stop with the spin Nick. Members are growing tried of it. You have been caught lieing big time in the Tafeen thread. Lick your wounds and lets go on.

[John McKenna]

Why didn't the offended vendor simply call Nick and talk about the issue?
The entire misunderstanding could have been corrected within one call.

This was all initiated to cause division, not to simply resolve an issue
between two parties who sent emails to each other. Those who joined
in the mob got played like a fiddle.

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by jmckenna1

Why didn't the offended vendor simply call Nick and talk about the issue?

Apparently he did.

....I spoke with Nick at length this morning regarding this thread.....

From this post by John O.

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by mlarson

Apparently he did.



From this post by John O.

Then why not let it stop there? Why the circus?

The next time I have an issue with someone, I am not
going to ask the forum to take it before the mob.
Why does James have to speak for John O.?

I guess you can put your business on the street, but
not me.

I have no desire to hang around a forum in an association
that I no longer enjoy. I like it here and I like Nick,
and those who do not need to find a new home.

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by jmckenna1

Then why not let it stop there? Why the circus?

The next time I have an issue with someone, I am not
going to ask the forum to take it before the mob.
Why does James have to speak for John O.?

I guess you can put your business on the street, but
not me.

I have no desire to hang around a forum in an association
that I no longer enjoy. I like it here and I like Nick,
and those who do not need to find a new home.

You have played a large part in that circus John.

I hope you are able to see that.

[James E. Braun, CMI]

James with the permission of Nick put it on the message board for his members can hear the evidence. Also just because somebody does not show up for the trial does not make him innocent.

[Nick Gromicko]

Post the lie, you can't.

[jvogan]

"Tafeen never did anything wrong in his life" (Federal Convict)
"Nachi doesn't take a cent from vendors, never has, never will (Nachi does)
Not a single vendor was "shaked down" by Nachi for money (John was)

These are just three that immediately jump to mind.

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by jvogan

"Tafeen never did anything wrong in his life" (Federal Convict)
"Nachi doesn't take a cent from vendors, never has, never will (Nachi does)
Not a single vendor was "shaked down" by Nachi for money (John was)

These are just three that immediately jump to mind.

You have to understand something.

The story goes that, when Nick was two years old, his mom found a mess in his diaper. Nick was able to convince her that an ASHI kid did it.

Now, at his more advanced age, he has convinced himself to believe his own hyperbole.

In coming posts, he will explain to you...with very subtle and almost invisible variations to certain words and sentences...why these three examples are not, technically, lies.

Read....and learn from the master.

Take it away, Nick......

[James E. Braun, CMI]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Post the lie, you can't.

See post #562 on thread entilted NACHI's New Relationship With Its Vendors.

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by jbraun

See post #562 on thread entilted NACHI's New Relationship With Its Vendors.

Here it is

[James E. Braun, CMI]

Originally Posted by mlarson

Here it is

I think you and me are thinking about different lies Nick has told. It is hard to keep track.

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by jbraun

I think you and me are thinking about different lies Nick has told. It is hard to keep track.

I simply posted a link to #562

[john bubber]

Friends theme song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KDvR9VevN4

[Nick Gromicko]

James Braun.. that is retarted!

Of course we charge vendors and take their money for stuff that costs us money! Did you actually think we give free booth space up to all the vendors in the world who want to attend? The links are posted everywhere and have been for years http://www.nachi.org/convention2007

Everyone knows that in the context of my conversation I meant that we don't take money from vendors to be listed on this website or this message board. Never have. Never will. Now if we have to spend money on anything, the vendor has to reimburse us of course. I just shipped out DVDs for a company and guess who gets the postage bill?

John was not "shaken down." John didn't turn down Peter's offer, Peter turned down John's offer, because it made no sense. And yes it is perfectly fine for one side of a negotiating table to point out to the other that their product or service isn't so special that it can't be reproduced for less than the other side wants to sell it back for. Common thing to do in the course of a business negotiation.

And no, Peter never did anything wrong, just like the prosecutors in Virginia and New Jersey said when they refused to prosecute him and all the other executives.