Non Member Moderation

[James E. Braun, CMI]

Originally Posted by jvogan

No, Nick. I asked you if you didn't know Missouri is a non-licensed state. She is claiming to be licensed in Missouri, under your logo. I have taken it to the ESOP, I just wonder why you are not outraged about it, and are, in fact, defending her, and her "diploma-mill" inspectors?

Point well made!

[Nick Gromicko]

jvogan, I'm doing neither. I'm not on the committee that would determine if it's true or false... and if false, if it's misleading or not. You can ask every member of ESOP, I simply don't influence or attempt to influence that committee. I just obey their final decisions.

[Nick Gromicko]

Jim, Chris says the moderators of non-members will take over some time between tomorrow and 2 weeks from now. It shouldn't affect these types of discussions.

[jvogan]

Originally Posted by gromicko

jvogan, I'm doing neither. I'm not on the committee that would determine if it's true or false... and if false, if it's misleading or not. You can ask every member of ESOP, I simply don't influence or attempt to influence that committee. I just obey their final decisions.

I am not on the comittee either, Nick. She is claiming to be licensed in a non-licensing state...don't have to be on the comittee to understand that or make a determination about that. A little while back, I emailed you about a member that dropped out of NACHI, and was still advertising your logo on their website, and you got that taken care of very quickly. Why is this any different?

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Jim, no I'm not, read my posts again, slower.

Find A Certified Home Inspector

See that, Nick? It does not say "Find a Member". It says ....what????

You are telling the public in at least this one case...plus the others that you say exist but don't know how many....that this realtor is a "certified home inspector" when all she did was pay you $289.

Then, on another page...you tell the public THIS about Ruth Haen, Realtor.....

How do inspectors qualify for free listing on FindAnInspector.US?

All inspectors on FindAnInspector.US are members of the National Association of Certified Home Inspectors (NACHI).
This ensures that they:

• Have passed NACHI's Online Inspector Examination (take it now for free),
• Adhere to comprehensive Standards of Practice,
• Abide by a Code of Ethics, and
• Fulfill Continuing Education Requirements.

Listing is a free service provided to those inspectors who can maintain this high standard of inspection excellence.

She has been "certified" for three years. By the rules, she was supposed to have tested three times. She did not test once.

She advertises the use of the ASHI SOP and the ASHI COE.


And....the CEUs????

[Nick Gromicko]

Jeff asks:

Why is this any different?

Because ESOP only has jurisdiction over members. I have the duty to protect our marks from non-member use. That is why it is different. Complaining to me about the ethics of your fellow member is as useless as complaining to ESOP about a Trademark violation. We all have our lanes and we stay in them.

[Nick Gromicko]

Jim, I'm not going to explain it over and over and over. Her REALTOR status is of no matter. She does not perform inspections. She is the owner of a large inspection company.

[jvogan]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Jeff asks:

Because ESOP only has jurisdiction over members. I have the duty to protect our marks from non-member use. That is why it is different. Complaing to me about the ethics of a fellow member is as useless as complaining to ESOP about a Trademark violation. We all have our lanes and we stay in them.

Fair enough. I made my complaint to Joe F. and we will see what happens. Good night, all.

[Nick Gromicko]

'nite.

[Christopher Currins]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Jeff asks:

Because ESOP only has jurisdiction over members. I have the duty to protect our marks from non-member use. That is why it is different. Complaing to me about the ethics of your fellow member is as useless as complaining to ESOP about a Trademark violation. We all have our lanes and we stay in them.

So the ESOP was able to conference and act swiftly the other day and remove both Dylan and Will from Nachi within a relative shortly time period?

[Nick Gromicko]

No. ESOP didn't delete them as members. Staff did. Although ESOP can expel members if they so decide to.

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Jim, I'm not going to explain it over and over and over. Her REALTOR status is of no matter. She does not perform inspections. She is the owner of a large inspection company.

For the record.....anyone who "is the owner of a large inspection company" (Ruth has three inspectors, BTW)....can be presented to the inquiring public by NACHI as a "certified home inspector" without taking any steps other than sending in a check for $289.

That is what you are saying....and that is okay with you?

And...when a realtor does it....and goes back to the other realtors and confirms to them that what ASHI Presidents have told them is true regarding the simple and non-accountable way in which NACHI "certifies" its members.....that is okay with you, too?

[Nick Gromicko]

I don't know that to be the case, and you saying it over and over makes me suspect it isn't.

ASHI's membership requirements are a matter of public record and can be viewed by all. They are the weakest of all inspection trade associations that I know of.

InterNACHI's membership requirements are a matter of public record and can be viewed by all. They are the strongest of all inspection trade associations that I know of.

There must be a reason that a REALOR who is an owner of a large inspection company chooses to be an InterNACHI member year after year. Ask her. Do you need her phone number?

[James H. Bushart]

Save your spins for your members. I don't buy them, anymore.

Anyone with a 3rd Grade reading level can understand my question and can avoid the twist you try to put on it by needing Ruth's rationale for "membership".

It is moot. It means nothing.

She can be a grocer. You are telling people on your inspectorseek.com database that she is a "certified home inspector" and then you go on to explain the criteria that you allege that she has accomplished....none of which she has.

This is the claim of your biggest critics....that ANYONE can be certified by NACHI.

Some have stretched the point by claiming their dogs and cats have attained "certified" status....but in this case, unlike the dogs and cats, no one took the test and lied. No one took the test at all.

"Certification" was awarded and continues to be presented to the public....as the nastiest of critics have claimed....with nothing more than a check.

[Nick Gromicko]

Save your spins for your members. I don't buy them, anymore.

Nearly 1 am EST and Jim finally jumps the shark.

Bedtime folks.