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Old 1/28/09, 11:38 AM
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As I thought short on facts.
LOL

Entire threads have already disappeared.

Okay...I will play along with you.

For almost a year, inflammatory and slanderous posts by expelled members have been posted to this board. Some directed toward me...some Farsetta...some Mario...and some others. They have been extremely disgusting and provacative....and easily Googled.

I can show you several hundred email exchanges where several members have gone to Nick and begged to have these posts edited...to no avail. Nick adamantly refused, under any circumstances, from even appearing to moderate the board.

In the last couple of weeks....we have learned of Nick's use of convicted felons to shake down vendors for up front money....the costs to be passed on to members who buy the products.

We learned of a "preferred vendor" scheme where vendors pay to play....something declared unethical and forbidden for members of NACHI, but required of vendors.

After Nick's embarassing and fruitless attempts to convince the world he did the right thing.......the threads disappeared. Entire threads, where he had denied hundreds of requests to simply remove references to phony criminal records made against members.

Then...suddenly out of a new and unexplained concern for the victims of Ray Wand....Nick expresses the need for 12...not one or two....but 12 moderators.

While threads embarassing to Nick disappear over night, loyal and admired members like Mario has to beg like pauper for Nick to delete false statements that have caused him public harm and humiliation....and Nick has yet to do it, still. Many of these slanderous posts remain in spite of the many legitimate requests to delete them.

And you think...you really think....that Nick's sudden change of heart for moderators has to do with the posts that (even at this writing) he has denied repeated requests to delete?

Get real.



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Old 1/28/09, 11:40 AM
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Three associations? Thank you for demonstrating just how well you will fit into the goon squad. You set a good example on how not to behave. Got to give JB credit unlike you he has balls! Now go back and play with your toys you hypocrite!
So your claiming none of it happened?

-------------------------------------------------
Re: Appeal Case - 2008-01 Monday Sept 8, 2008

Dear Mr. Wand:

The Registrar of the Ontario Association of Home Inspectors (OAHI) has notified the Appeals Committee that you have not complied with the recommendations /requirements as stated in the Appeals Committee Document - 2008-01 (OAHI Appeals Case 2008-01).

As stated in your letter from the OAHI Secretary "The decision rendered by the Appeals Committee is deemed to be the decision of the Board of Directors and shall be final, binding and conclusive of all matters dealt with as per by-law 15.6.

Therefore, your membership was terminated on October 6, 2008 as you did not comply.

We wish you the best in the future endeavors.

Yours truly,

Ontario Association of Home Inspectors

Signed: Glenn Gogal, RHI
President

cc: Appeals Committee
---------------------------------------------

That's called denial Ray. Get some help.



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Old 1/28/09, 11:44 AM
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Don't worry Dan.
I'm going to lobby to keep you you around unedited to demonstrate the idiocy of the typical NACHI basher.

I'm rootin' for ya dannyboy.

You never disappoint.
I do not want Dan to be censored either. It amazes me how a cat in Arizona, that is a NACHI member, can correspond like he does. Simply amazing!
I hope they do not start censoring Molly in Kansas.
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Old 1/28/09, 11:54 AM
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Micahael you can't add! I already proved that both Nachi proceeded to remove me because your illustrious worm JF acted out of animosity. My letter from Mark Cohen proves that JF acted improperly. As to OAHI my appeal findings contradict your statement. You can't prove otherwise. As to ASHI I am a member in good standing. OAHI stiffed my for $300 plus. I can post the documentation to prove you are out to lunch as usual.
And you can't spell.

Or face the reality of your own pathetic existence.

Get some help.



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Old 1/28/09, 12:20 PM
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Desperate aren't we dweeb? Now you pick on my spelling because you can't back up your claims. You are pathetic and you amply demonstrate your incompetence! Wait til James gets his blog up, you will be exposed, I keep meticulous records unlike you!
Ah Ray,

How sweet.

I know you want to love me real good but I'm married. Thank you.



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The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson

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Old 1/28/09, 12:24 PM
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LOL

Entire threads have already disappeared.

Okay...I will play along with you.

For almost a year, inflammatory and slanderous posts by expelled members have been posted to this board. Some directed toward me...some Farsetta...some Mario...and some others. They have been extremely disgusting and provacative....and easily Googled.

I can show you several hundred email exchanges where several members have gone to Nick and begged to have these posts edited...to no avail. Nick adamantly refused, under any circumstances, from even appearing to moderate the board.

In the last couple of weeks....we have learned of Nick's use of convicted felons to shake down vendors for up front money....the costs to be passed on to members who buy the products.

We learned of a "preferred vendor" scheme where vendors pay to play....something declared unethical and forbidden for members of NACHI, but required of vendors.

After Nick's embarassing and fruitless attempts to convince the world he did the right thing.......the threads disappeared. Entire threads, where he had denied hundreds of requests to simply remove references to phony criminal records made against members.

Then...suddenly out of a new and unexplained concern for the victims of Ray Wand....Nick expresses the need for 12...not one or two....but 12 moderators.

While threads embarassing to Nick disappear over night, loyal and admired members like Mario has to beg like pauper for Nick to delete false statements that have caused him public harm and humiliation....and Nick has yet to do it, still. Many of these slanderous posts remain in spite of the many legitimate requests to delete them.

And you think...you really think....that Nick's sudden change of heart for moderators has to do with the posts that (even at this writing) he has denied repeated requests to delete?

Get real.
The past is the past regrettable as it may be.

I am thankful for the change.

Let's see how it works out before we ascribe ulterior motives to it.

I remain hopeful.



He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors - Thomas Jefferson - Founding Father

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson

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Old 1/28/09, 12:44 PM
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Raymond Wand of Caledon, ON,

Want to see my charge card statement?

You have no ethics and no class and are prone to lie.

No wonder you have been removed from the roster of FOUR orgs.



He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors - Thomas Jefferson - Founding Father

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson

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Old 1/28/09, 12:49 PM
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Since Raymond Wand never paid for membership in NACHI, what credibility does he have?

I have paid every year for the last 3 years.

I have never applied for NAHI or ASHI as I had little interest in an Org that would admit you.

Get some help Raymond Wand of Caledon, ON



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The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson

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Old 1/28/09, 12:52 PM
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Ah Ray,

How sweet.

I know you want to love me real good but I'm married. Thank you.
Michael:

Until this last comment, I thought you had a bit of human dignity........but no longer!! You, Mario and a couple other misanthropic scum (MUM) are definitely below human grade!!!

You must be the MAN of the family.....pity your poor wife!!
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Old 1/28/09, 12:54 PM
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News flash Brian Mc butthead

I tend to agree with Mario's assessment of you .



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The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson

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Old 1/28/09, 1:21 PM
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News flash Brian Mc butthead

I tend to agree with Mario's assessment of you .
Then go join him in the Grade 8 school yard and compare ----- sizes!
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Old 1/28/09, 3:25 PM
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Mikey is getting really pissed off. What can he do for an encore? Remember Michael you will get back ten fold what you sow!
This proves deleting threads will not work. Apparently it's quite easy to sign in again using a different alias. One person could have multiple names at any given time.

Kind of like our friend Ruth in St.Louis. Note, I brought her tactic to Nachi's attention over a year ago, and nothing has happened. Even her claiming on her website that her inspectors or licensed by NACHI in a State that requires no licensing, obviously to attract business in Illinois, which does require licensing.



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Old 1/28/09, 3:50 PM
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What would work would be if members refused to respond to posts from alias usernames such as "Pia Pium" or use the ignore feature.

Even more incredulous is that members who cannot demonstrate enough self control to do this are eagerly volunteering to be Moderators.

Incredible.

Jim B., once again you have nailed it.



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Old 1/28/09, 3:52 PM
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What would work would be if members refused to respond to posts from alias usernames such as "Pia Pium" or use the ignore feature.

Even more incredulous is that members who cannot demonstrate enough self control to do this are eagerly volunteering to be Moderators.

Incredible.

Jim B., once again you have nailed it.
Someone just deleted a post that was neither libelous or obscene. You can read it here and judge for yourself.

This is where censorship goes.



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What would work would be if members refused to respond to posts from alias usernames such as "Pia Pium" or use the ignore feature.

Even more incredulous is that members who cannot demonstrate enough self control to do this are eagerly volunteering to be Moderators.

Incredible.

Jim B., once again you have nailed it.
The squeaky wheel gets the grease!!!

Not incredible at all, John. It has been shown in psychological testing that a planted aggressive loudmouth could convince a group not to make the best decision in situations presented to them!!! The loudest are not necessarily the smartest.

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