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Old 1/27/09, 11:22 PM
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ASHI is a known diploma mill with zero entrance requirements. She must have her reasons for keeping membership at InterNACHI... and I suspect they are solid business reasons.
Ha, she is a Realtor trying to discredit NACHI.
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Old 1/27/09, 11:24 PM
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Missouri does not license inspectors.

This is simply a typo, for she tries to have an Illinois licensed inspector on hand to handle Illinois jobs.
This is not just a simple mistake or she would have it under tha A$Hi logo too.
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Old 1/27/09, 11:25 PM
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How long do you guys figure before this thread disappears?

If I were Nick, I'd be in a bigger hurry to bury it than the two he deleted revealing his demand for money from vendors, etc.



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Old 1/27/09, 11:25 PM
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Jim, the premise of your question is false. We do have several (not many) multi-inspector firm owners, vendors, and staff who for various reasons need or want to remain visible. Staff is supposed to put the words "not an inspector" in for their company name.

These few non-inspectors who are visible are far offset by the many actual inspectors who aren't visible for various reasons, so our numbers under-represent our actual N. American inspector members.



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Old 1/27/09, 11:26 PM
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ASHI is a known diploma mill with zero entrance requirements. She must have her reasons for keeping membership at InterNACHI... and I suspect they are solid business reasons.
You might want to tell the Realtors in Missouri this because I hear nothing but praise about their certified ASHI inspectors from Missouri Realtors.
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Old 1/27/09, 11:27 PM
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jbraun, you can file an ethics complaint with ESOP if you think her website is misleading to consumers.

Jim, you are not even a member here, if you don't like it, I suggest that you do what I did in 1990.



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Old 1/27/09, 11:28 PM
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Jim, you are incorrect in assuming that she has no employees that are members of InterNACHI.
Who are they? I pointed this out over a year ago, answer was she (Ruth) is the member. At that time I didn't know she did not need to take the on-line exam or stay current with CE's.
So basically anyone who is incorporated (be the owner, secretary, inspector) can become a Nachi member and have all of the benefits without meeting the same requirements as a single home inspector.



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Old 1/27/09, 11:28 PM
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jbraun, she has very good inspectors IMHO. At least one is especially excellent.



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Old 1/27/09, 11:30 PM
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Jim, the premise of your question is false. We do have several (not many) multi-inspector firm owners, vendors, and staff who for various reasons need or want to remain visible. Staff is supposed to put the words "not an inspector" in for their company name.

These few non-inspectors who are visible are far offset by the many actual inspectors who aren't visible for various reasons, so our numbers under-represent our actual N. American inspector members.


So...a realtor can skip all of the testing, education requirements, etc....send you a check to become a "certified home inspector" member of NACHI.....hire ASHI members to conduct their inspection using the ASHI SOP and ASHI COE....and it's okay.

It's okay...because it falls under some mysterious category where some are "visible" and some are not....or something like that...and you are not certain as to how many.

Interesting.

You have just validated the most critical and damaging charges that have been made against your association...and for your annual receipt of $289....you demonstrate it to the Missouri Association of Realtors on an annual basis.

And this is okay with you?



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Old 1/27/09, 11:30 PM
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and if you would ask the Realtors that refer him they would say because he is an ASHI inspector.
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Old 1/27/09, 11:31 PM
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Dan, good question. The reason has to do with owners of multi-inspector firms being worried that InterNACHI provides its members with so much (literally everything a home inspector could dream of), that the employee inspector might get funny ideas and go into business for him/herself. At least that is the strategy I've had explained to me from owners of multi-inspector firms.
OMG nickey, where do you come up with this stuff?? :t wisted:
Let me quess, they also tell their employees, and families that they are forbiden to go on the internet after hours, if they are caught doing any research about nacho they will be fired on the spot.
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jbraun, she has very good inspectors IMHO. At least one is especially excellent.
What the hell???? "She" is advertising that she is licensed in Missouri...she is a liar. There is no licensing in Missouri??? Anyone from the show-me-state tell me how to be a licensed "home" inspector in Missouri, please.....

As stated in a one of the GREATEST movies ever made....."don't pi$$ down my back and tell me it's raining".......

Licensed in Missouri...unbelievable.
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Old 1/27/09, 11:35 PM
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jbraun, she has very good inspectors IMHO. At least one is especially excellent.
She insists that they spend no more than an hour on site. Bill Aichhorn (former NACHI member employee of Ruth's who joined ASHI as soon as he was eligible) told me she chastised him and threatened to fire him when could not get his inspections under 90 minutes.

They are not allowed to take photos, leave the checklist at the time of inspection, and move on.


Tell us about the one who is "especially excellent".



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Old 1/27/09, 11:36 PM
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ccurrins, asked and answered already. A non-inspector can be a member of InterNACHI if certain requirements are met. In the case of a multi-inspector owner who employs an InterNACHI member, the InterNACHI member can grant permission for their visible contact information be changed for various reasons. Multi-inspector firms are rare and these situations are even rarer.

If, as predicted by some, the market would ever begin to become controlled by multi-inspector firms, InterNACHI is prepared to take measures to handle these firms on something other than a case by case basis.



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Interesting.

You have just validated the most critical and damaging charges that have been made against your association...and for your annual receipt of $289....you demonstrate it to the Missouri Association of Realtors on an annual basis.
It's very interesting. Thanks for getting the truth from the horses mouth.
Been saying it for years, only to get bashed for telling the truth, and joining a HI org that requires proctored testing, proof of completing 250 inspections to standards , and more, prior to being marketed as a "Certified Inspector" to the public.
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