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Old 2/5/09, 4:08 PM
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Default Re: One of you should register the domain name ASHINAHI.org

Erol,

The feeling is mutual, I also respect you. I'm not bashing any ASHI Home Inspectors; I have respect for some ASHI inspectors, but not the org.
NACHI has 2 levels of membership, 1 is a full member (verifiable inspections) and 2 just a member. It's not up to NACHI as an association to verify it's up to the individual inspector (member) to provide these reports and have them verified; anyway I don't want to get into that.
I have been a member of NACHI for 3 years now and I can remember 3 years ago taking a defect and recognition course with OAHI (an ASHI north association) and the instructor was ridiculing all NACHI members! Why? I suspect that NACHI has set the bench mark for all associations and is now exceeding it and they can't keep up! I paid good money to take this course and the last thing I wanted or needed was an ****hole instructor wearing an ASHI tie and shirt ridiculing NACHI.
I wish you the best with your business and with ASHI but clearly ASHI is not for me (and not for everyone) and never will be. If we ever meet, I will get into it more but that's all I have to say here on this MB as far as my opinions on ASHI are concerned.





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Old 2/5/09, 4:09 PM
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Default Re: One of you should register the domain name ASHINAHI.org

Well, their "certified" category is nothing to brag about either. Not a full blow diploma mill I agree, but nothing too good. Let's look at their 3 requirements for their top professional designation:

1. Only a few of the 250 are reviewed and they aren't reviewed to determine if the inspection was any good or not. They are reviewed to see if the report generation complies to SOP. Pretty meaningless.

2. Unethical inspectors pass ethics quizzes with flying colors by simply giving ethical answers. It doesn't make the test take ethical. Meaningless again.

3. The NHIE is a "minimum" standard exam (their ajective, not mine). It is used by several states to license newbies fresh out of school. Hardly an exam a professional association would use for their top designation. Meaningless again.



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Old 2/5/09, 10:12 PM
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Default Re: One of you should register the domain name ASHINAHI.org

Not to mention that they send the newbie out to do 250 inspection before
requiring any test, any education or qualifications on a public that looks
at them a belonging to ASHI. Nothing to brag about.



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Old 2/5/09, 10:20 PM
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Default Re: One of you should register the domain name ASHINAHI.org

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What has ASHI and NAHI ever done to better our profession? Hell, what has any home inspector association ever done besides provide "benefits" from preferred vendors buying the association clout to advance their agendas (licensing to create demand for their test teaching facilities, CE requirements to increase demand for their overpriced 101 level seminars, etc.)???
You need to come out from your igloo for a little while
Where do you think HI SOP's came from?

How do you think the public's been made aware of the value of hiring a private HI before buying a home?

Who do you think got the wording on Real Estate Contracts to make the public aware that a Home appraisal is different than a HI?
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Old 2/6/09, 12:35 AM
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Well, their "certified" category is nothing to brag about either. Not a full blow diploma mill I agree, but nothing too good. Let's look at their 3 requirements for their top professional designation:

1. Only a few of the 250 are reviewed and they aren't reviewed to determine if the inspection was any good or not. They are reviewed to see if the report generation complies to SOP. Pretty meaningless.

2. Unethical inspectors pass ethics quizzes with flying colors by simply giving ethical answers. It doesn't make the test take ethical. Meaningless again.

3. The NHIE is a "minimum" standard exam (their ajective, not mine). It is used by several states to license newbies fresh out of school. Hardly an exam a professional association would use for their top designation. Meaningless again.
Who said only a few of 250 are reviewed? Don't lie about my comments.

You call NHIE a newbie test while a part time waiter can have his construction buddy take the online NACHI exam.

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Old 2/6/09, 12:40 AM
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Not to mention that they send the newbie out to do 250 inspection before
requiring any test, any education or qualifications on a public that looks
at them a belonging to ASHI. Nothing to brag about.
Not true. I had 14 years of commercial HVAC installation experience and a college education in construction AND college program for home inspection before I did my first home inspection. How about you?
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Old 2/6/09, 12:45 AM
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Not true. I had 14 years of commercial HVAC installation experience and a college education in construction AND college program for home inspection before I did my first home inspection. How about you?
Erol, he doesn't do inspections any more...he TEACHES...I feel safer already.....



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