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Old 10/2/07, 11:01 PM
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Can anyone recommend an online building science thermography course? I was looking at the Infraspection Institute's 32hr course. Any recommendations would be appreciated...thanks.
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Old 10/3/07, 12:56 AM
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Can anyone recommend an online building science thermography course? I was looking at the Infraspection Institute's 32hr course. Any recommendations would be appreciated...thanks.
This is a super good course that is administered by one of the most
respected training providers in the industry.

A live course is worth way more than an online course. IMHO

http://www.infraredtraining.com/cour...g_sciences.asp

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Old 10/3/07, 7:40 AM
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John,

There is no doubt a live course would be better. I was planning on going with the online course for starters. What do you think of this course?

http://www.infraspection.com/courses...g_general.html
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Mathew,

I took the online course from Infraspection. While a live class is better due to the interaction between the students and instructor, the online course is pretty good.

I have done a lot of reading about thermography over the past couple of years and was an engineer in a former life so some of the basics were repetitive to me but that probably would have been true in a class too. The course consists of a series of videos and a large workbook and quizzes. You can contact the chief instructor at any time by phone or email to ask questions. You may be tempted to start the course before you receive your printed materials but it's probably best if you wait.

After completeing the course, you have to take a proctored final exam for certification. You can take it at the location of any class course or the Infraspection convention for free. Or they can arrange to have someone in your area proctor it for you for an extra fee. I'm taking the exam in Conway AR later this month.

Overall, I'd give it an 8 out of 10. Call me if you want any more details.
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Old 10/3/07, 7:04 PM
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Ronald,

Thank you very much for the information.
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Old 10/4/07, 12:48 PM
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With my business at stake, I did not trust any online course to
answer all my questions. I thought of over 100 questions a
day at my live course and learned tons of stuff from my
fellow thermographers.

If I was going to spend the money, I would go all the way
and do the live course. Or.. at least hold off on offering
thermal imaging for a fee.

IMHO
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If you did not take both the online course and the in class course you can't really make an informed opinon can you? It's normal to be proud of the path we choose for various endeavors but it does not mean there is not more than one way to skin the cat. Each has it's merits and issues.
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Old 10/4/07, 10:32 PM
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I took the online course from Infraspection. While a live class is better due to the interaction between the students and instructor....
I agree with your statement from your previous post.

If you can afford both ways, then go both ways. If you can only afford
one, the best would be my advise.

If you go to court and they ask about your credentials as a thermographer,
it would be better to have been trained from the worlds leading institute
of thermography than to have taken a home study course... IMHO

Its no skin off my back one way or another.
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If you go to court and they ask about your credentials as a thermographer,
it would be better to have been trained from the worlds leading institute
of thermography than to have taken a home study course... IMHO

Huh.
This comes from a person that believes an inspector quailfies as a Certified MASTER Home Inspector by simply filling out an affidavit and paying an individual 375.00

Why the double standard ? What makes a thermographers qualifications any more important than a Home Inspectors, that has to report on, identify, and make decisions on 100s of components that could mean financial disaster, life or death to the customer, if not properly identified or properly reported?

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Old 10/4/07, 11:51 PM
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Huh.
This comes from a person that believes an inspector quailfies as a Certified MASTER Home Inspector by simply filling out an affidavit and paying an individual 375.00

Why the double standard ? What makes a thermographers qualifications any more important than a Home Inspectors, that has to report on, identify, and make decisions on 100s of components that could mean financial disaster, life or death to the customer, if not properly identified or properly reported?

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You seem to have conveniently left out the conditions to become a CMI.

Home inspector qualifications are important and so are a thermographer's.

Do you recommend that inspectors and themographers get their training
from home study courses? I didn't know that was your preferred method.
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Huh.
This comes from a person that believes an inspector quailfies as a Certified MASTER Home Inspector by simply filling out an affidavit and paying an individual 375.00

A lie, and you know it. CMI requires 1000 hours, as a combination of inspections (one hour credit per inspection) and education hours (state or association approved hours). Mr. McKenna qualifies. I qualify (I have written 3 state approved CE courses (over 100 hours to create each course, not counting the time involved to get them state approved and to teach them), but, I have only been doing inspections for a little under 4 years.

During that time, I have also been awarded the NACHI goldern pen award, served as a Chapter VP and Pres, (not President Emeritas), done over 450 paid inspections (residential), 85 commercial inspections, 230 Thermal imaging inspections, 310 mold inspections, 272 'consultations', and 510 draw inspections. I have courses that are approved for state CE in 3 states and have taught these courses in 5 states, and in Toronto, at the NACHI convention. I was also invited to teach HI courses at Purdue University, Niles North High School and Oakton Community College (I taught, for over 3 years, at DePaul University, Loyola University and the University of Chicago (where I did research on Thermal Imaging, as a diagnostic tool to detect Breast Cancer). I also have gradute degrees in Physics and Compter Science, and was pulling wire, bending EMT, testing circuits since I was 8 years old, competely re-wired 10 3 and 4 flats (all of which passed City of Chicago code inspections) as well as changed out SE panels, built 23 wooden decks, worked on installing 41 concrete foundations, helped to frame 31 new construction houses and was voted 2006 NACHI member of the year.

But, Mr. McKenna is a MASTER, and I am hesitant to apply for CMI. I need a couple of years more.

Why the double standard ? What makes a thermographers qualifications any more important than a Home Inspectors, that has to report on, identify, and make decisions on 100s of components that could mean financial disaster, life or death to the customer, if not properly identified or properly reported?

It is clear, from your previous statement, that you are not a Certified Thermographer. I was (initially) certified my the American Medical Assocaition and the American College of Radiologists, the National Association of Registed Radiologic Technicians, a Charter member of the National Society of Nuclear Medicine Technologists (Technician and Professional Associate memberships) and a couple of other "certifications" during my initial training (I just LOVE good schooling!!!!!). What have you done with your life, sir?

I would submit, Mr. Harris, that you have no idea what the word "Qualified" means.

Join the real world.

Do not continue your previous works of trying to, childishly, post silly slams on your betters.

I know that it is all you have, but you should give it up for a new hobby.

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I feel much better now.

Silly people are so, I don't know .... SILLY?



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Old 10/5/07, 12:11 AM
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OOOOH I so impressed.
Arent you the one that was upset that you could not qualify as a cmi a while back, even though you thought you should have, because you did all the things above that you impressed me with..
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Old 10/5/07, 12:22 AM
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OOOOH I so impressed.
Arent you the one that was upset that you could not qualify as a cmi a while back, even though you thought you should have, because you did all the things above that you impressed me with..

Nice answer, d.

But, you have not answered your own question.

Why are you more "Qualified" than me?

If you are not, why are you more "qualified" than Mr. McKenna?

If you are not (as you have obviously shown, here) why do you believe that you can criticize Mr. McKenna?

Why do you think that you are SOOOOOO qualified to criticize me?

Did you graduate High School? College? University? Grad School? Have you taught at all these levels (with qualifications to do so)?

Please post a verified Curricula Vita, here. Mine is public knowledge. E-mail me (below) if you need help verifying it.

In short, sir, why do you believe that you are, in any 'qualified'. to questions someone else's 'qualifications'?

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In short, sir, why do you believe that you are, in any 'qualified'. to questions someone else's 'qualifications'?

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You have never seen me brag or try to impress any body with my education, training or HI qualifiications.
All I did was ask a legit question that others already agreed with,
besides that I'm just playing ping pong with the greenies, almost 3 boxes, then another red one, good thing red ones only take away 2 points and greenies add 5
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Old 10/5/07, 12:36 AM
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In short, sir, why do you believe that you are, in any 'qualified'. to questions someone else's 'qualifications'?

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You have never seen me brag or try to impress any body with my education, training or HI qualifiications.
All I did was ask a legit question that others already agreed with,
besides that I'm just playing ping pong with the greenies, almost 3 boxes, then another red one, good thing red ones only take away 2 points and greenies add 5 [/quote]

Yet, you feel free to critique Nick, Mr. McKenna and countless others (including myself).

Why do you feel you are "qualified" to do so? That is the questions.

You may answer it or you may stay mute. But if you make any other posts and do not answer the above questions (verifiably), you cannot be expected to be taken seriously, as many of your previous posts, already. display.

So, you have proved my belief for a long time.

You are not serious in your posts. You are not a serious Adult.

You are just being silly.

I, myself, do that often.



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