Plumbing or Electricial?

[Ted Allen]

I would think so............ Must be the newbie hour on this MB. lol


Maybe you should PM James B. for the answer as he is all knowing in all things, well maybe not Home inspection stuff.

[relliott]

Next thing you know Marc is going to tell me I should take all the coat hangers off my conduit downstairs.

[Ted Allen]

Originally Posted by relliott

Next thing you know Marc is going to tell me I should take all the coat hangers off my conduit downstairs.

That would be best................ Hang a damn cord for God's sake.....

[Marc D. Shunk]

Originally Posted by tallen

I am fairly sure they may not be exposed inside of a cabinet either.

Depends on where you live. I don't like it, but it would fly in every jurisdiction I work in. The pic is obvious hack work, anyhow. Pull some reason out of the hopper to call work like that out. Plumbing, electrical, whatever... it's crap work.

[Ted Allen]

Originally Posted by Marc D. Shunk

Depends on where you live. I don't like it, but it would fly in every jurisdiction I work in. The pic is obvious hack work, anyhow. Pull some reason out of the hopper to call work like that out. Plumbing, electrical, whatever... it's crap work.

I call it every time, as far as I am concerned exposed NM is a violation and needs help.

[Christopher Currins]

Originally Posted by bkelly2

You would think that would be a vote for electrical then wouldn't you?

I was looking for trick question, so i picked 4

[whandley]

Originally Posted by relliott

Oops ..I take that back as the hose needs to go above the bottom of the sink.

Several jurisdictions here in California do not accept high loop DW drain line systems. I can't remember the last time I found newer construction without a sink top mounted air gap valve.

[Charley L. Bottger]

Originally Posted by bkelly2

Well which is it?

Sorry BK I will have to ask my Pet Monkey the one that bends pipe and pulls wires.
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[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by cbottger

Sorry BK I will have to ask my Pet Monkey the one that bends pipe and pulls wires.
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That is just mean Charley.

[Charley L. Bottger]

Originally Posted by bkelly2

That is just mean Charley.

Yeah I suppose so, Life is fun.

My other brother gave me a RED box for making that statement he's no fun at all

[relliott]

Will.. I have never heard of a high loop ban as not only wouldn't make sense but install instructions tell you to do just that.
No loop, gets a write up.
I do not no much more as I only installed them every day for seven years as a Sear installer.
Some models have the loop buit in however.It is attached at the back of the unit.

[Christopher Currins]

Originally Posted by relliott

Will.. I have never heard of a high loop ban as not only wouldn't make sense but install instructions tell you to do just that.
No loop, gets a write up.
I do not no much more as I only installed them every day for seven years as a Sear installer.
Some models have the loop buit in however.It is attached at the back of the unit.

" California "

[Ted Allen]

Originally Posted by Marc D. Shunk

Depends on where you live. I don't like it, but it would fly in every jurisdiction I work in. The pic is obvious hack work, anyhow. Pull some reason out of the hopper to call work like that out. Plumbing, electrical, whatever... it's crap work.

I am curious Marc; is exposed nm cable allowed in your area as long as it is inside a cabinet?

If so, that is nuts, at leaste to me. To be honest I do not know the new codes in my area, but exposed NM cable is a deffinet write up for me as I think it is a safety hazard.

If it is allowed I have jacked up many a farked up microwave install...

[Christopher Currins]

Originally Posted by tallen

I am curious Marc; is exposed nm cable allowed in your area as long as it is inside a cabinet?

If so, that is nuts, at least to me. To be honest I do not know the new codes in my area, but exposed NM cable is a defined write up for me as I think it is a safety hazard.

If it is allowed I have jacked up many a farked up microwave install...

Especially in a damp location. Or easily accessible area. This has both.

[Marc D. Shunk]

Originally Posted by tallen

I am curious Marc; is exposed nm cable allowed in your area as long as it is inside a cabinet?

It's allowed exposed almost anywhere in a dwelling in my neck of the woods. The people that inspect here take a pretty laissez-faire approach to determining what is and isn't exposed to physical damage. You may know that the NEC gives no guidance on the matter, except with regard to romex emerging from a floor, in which case it must be protected for 6" AFF. I try to take a more reasonable approach and protect exposed romex in cabinets, for instance, by some means. Other exposed runs, such as those isolated by height, I make no such effort. I know that many areas have their own rules on this matter, and it varies pretty widely. This is one of those things where you just have to use your head. Just because you can see it, doesn't automatically mean that it's exposed to physical damage. It's just simply exposed. The picture in this thread I would personally consider exposed to physical damage because of what I've seen jammed in kitchen cupboards, but that's just my opinion. Substitute your own if it pleases you more. After all, you're a home inspector composing a report that contains, in part, your best opinions on what has been observed.