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[Nick Gromicko]

Todd, sorry I just read a couple of your posts and was surprised to learn that you think I "banned" you from something. Not true.

If you know the history of this message board, I have always fought (and often lost) to keep this message board a haven for free speech and I will continue to fight on behalf of freedom.

[Nick Gromicko]

I had dinner the last night of the recent commercial course and was surrounded by members who argued for me to add moderators and censorship to the NACHI message board. My point is that I certainly would have much support for a proposal to limit our message board to members, add moderators, block ISPs, etc and if I wanted an antiseptic board... I could probably get it. You are still posting, no?

[Brian E. Kelly]

Todd, send in your dues and I am sure you will be reinstated.
Don't send in your dues and keep looking for termites.
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[dharris]

Originally Posted by jbushart

Boy, you ex-member gurus sure do know lots and lots of stuff. You know, you are my main source of information. I don't know which one of you are the most credible....

Hey, did you read my post on the ASHI message board? They love me there.

Uhhh Busshy... I see there is another side to this story.
And your on nachi's ethics committee banning and deciding what happens to your fellow nachi members???
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[James H. Bushart]

FROM THE TOP SECRET ASHI MESSAGE BOARD...WHERE ONLY MEMBERS CAN VIEW AND POST.....

Darren Miller writes:

On a previous post, John Cahill wrote:

"I find it very interesting that NACHI allows non members to post openly on the NACHI forum yet ASHI will not let non members post. I am surprised by this as most forums are closed. Do you think you can get the ASHI forum opened to NACHI, NAHI, ICC, TAREI, CREIA members?"


If you go to their board and browse thru, you'll see these words commonly used;

Scumbag

Douchbag

Asshole

Drunken bum

Do you want this board littered with this garbage? Is that really 'professional'?

Can you imagine listening to people like Jim Bushart talk about how high of a pedestal Nickafore is standing on? (if he ever fell off that pedestal he put himself on, he'd break every limb he has).

Please! While differences on this board do occur, it's civil compared to NACHI's.

John, I don't know how true it is, but I do believe I read in some tread that if you belong to any other organization beside NACHi, the NACHI logo must be higher on your web site that the other org?

petty?




Darren

www.aboutthehouseinspections.com



Subject:ASHI Board
Over the coming year we will have some changes to our website and some of those changes could very likely include a public section on our discussion board. We have numerous request for this from consumers and folks looking to join ASHI. If it does happen, it will be moderated and designed more for the consumer and inspectors with questions that don't belong to ASHI. Folks will have to register with some detailed information that should also help to weed out the trouble makers.
We will also have some online education and a sample exam questions for inspectors to practice on, this will also be on the public side.

Scott Patterson
ASHI Membership Chair





Subject:ASHI Board
Why commit the resources for this? Just provide a link to TIJ.
I agree with Darren - I never go to the NACHI bb. The only people I remember seeing over there were:
* those trying to establish a name for themselves. (They want to be the Katens, Hansens, SSBs, Kurts, Cramers... of the world, but mostly aren't.)
* those trying to sell something.
* those who need to learn to spell the 4-letter words before they proceed to the complex 5, 6... letter ones.
* those who are temporarily lost, but will be smarter tomorrow.
>Over the coming year we will have some changes to our
>website and some of those changes could very likely
>include a public section on our discussion board. We
>have numerous request for this from consumers and folks
>looking to join ASHI. If it does happen,
>it will be moderated and designed more for the consumer and
>inspectors with questions that don't belong to ASHI.
>Folks will have to register with some detailed information
>that should also help to weed out the trouble makers.
>We will also have some online education and a sample exam
>questions for inspectors to practice on, this will also
>be on the public side. Scott PattersonASHI Membership
>Chair

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Gary Randolph



Subject:ASHI Board
I have met the Nicktator on a few occasions and my feelings are don't trust him as far as you can throw him. Hint: He is not that small.

Mike P.
S. FLA


Subject:ASHI Board>Darren,
>I'm sorry if my regard for
>Nick Gromicko has offended you
>in any way.

Holy catnip Batman! Jim Bushart is an ASHI member!

After years of bashing ASHI, you have decided to join the organization you so much despise?

What’s up with that….

Did you offend me; no, quite the opposite. I’ve read the NACHI board maybe 4 times, each time I left there a little giddy, it was quite entertaining to read most of the chest pounding, name calling and member bashing.

I probably will go back in several months or when I’ve had a really bad day and need a good chuckle.

As a pro-NACHI person, did you ever step back and really look at how the general public, your potential customer, sees that web site and chat board; it that the kind of 1st impression you want to give?

Darren



Subject:ASHI Board
Jim,
Welcome to ASHI!!!
Since you joined just last night, you should understand that this WebBoard is much more thoughtful and respectful than the one we have all seen at NACHI.
I hope you have much to share with us that is separate from organizational politics.
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Gary Randolph


Subject:ASHI Board
Busshy... Welcome to this side of the HI profession.
I was always trying to put a face with your posts'
Thanks for posting your photo
Dan


Subject:ASHI Board
Earlier today, a non-member was provided access to the ASHI Web Board by a current member. This was achieved by sharing the member's number and password, which then allowed this non-member to access the area and create an account from which to make a post.
We have deleted this non-member's account and his posts. The ASHI WebBoard is open to members only so this individual did not have authorization to use this WebBoard.
Again a reminder to all members, please keep your membership number and password secure. Materials and programs protected behind the secure members' area are YOUR benefits. Please do your part to keep these areas for members only.

Posted: 01 Mar 2007 08:35 AM

Busted.

[James H. Bushart]

You know, in all seriousness, I am shocked at the lack of good information on the ASHI Message Board.

Some poor schmuck will ask a question...then a group of his fellow ASHI members will pile up on him for being so stupid to ask the question. It's no wonder you ASHI folks have to walk around pretending like you know everything --- it is either that, or be eaten alive.

One thing I notice quite readily is how well versed these fellows are on what we publish on our board. It is also obvious to me why they keep their board so secret and hush hush --- they don't want the public to know that it's as stupid as it really is.

Anyway, I will not be posting anymore to your ASHI board and giving away my presence, but I will try to make it through your threads in the next few days.

But I did pass something on to Nick.

It is obvious that ASHI members are frequent, regular visitors to our site and...at your site...one must be an "expert" in order to post. Should you ask a question that someone there considers to be "beneath" what a good inspector should know...you are strongly chastised. I suggested to Nick that NACHI sponsor a forum for ASHI members - since they are all over here, anyway - post their concerns and issues freely. Additionally, you can take the opportunity to recruit for your "member recruits a member" program in order to boost up your numbers a bit. It could be interesting.

[James H. Bushart]

Gosh....All I did was say "hello" and give these guys mine and Nick's regards. Read what they have written since they deleted my greeting and ..ahem...blocked me from the message board:

Subject:ASHI Board

Is there any type of punishment to the member who allowed this to happen?

Darren



Subject:ASHI Board

Make him/her join NACHI.

>Is there any type of punishment to the member who allowed
>this to happen?
>
>Darren

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Gary Randolph



Subject:ASHI Board

Neutering!

Scott Patterson
Spring Hill, TN (Nashville)



Subject:ASHI Board

Anthony took the offending posts off the forum. We are trying to get to the member who gave access at which time we will suspend his forum account for at least 30 days if not longer. John Ghent, Forum Committee Chairman


Subject:ASHI Board

You say neuter, I say join NACHI. Same thing.
>Neutering!Scott PattersonSpring Hill, TN (Nashville)

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Gary Randolph

I could be mistaken, but I don't think they enjoyed my visit over there. dan, you guys are awfully unfriendly. Here, Nick lets you come on and bash to your heart's delight. I come over with a message of love and peace, and you want to "neuter" me...? Gosh.

[dharris]

Originally Posted by jbushart

Gosh....All I did was say "hello" and give these guys mine and Nick's regards. Read what they have written since they deleted my greeting and ..ahem...blocked me from the message board:







I could be mistaken, but I don't think they enjoyed my visit over there. dan, you guys are awfully unfriendly. Here, Nick lets you come on and bash to your heart's delight. I come over with a message of love and peace, and you want to "neuter" me...? Gosh.

I thought they said you needed tutoring on using the BB..

What really gave it away to me was your BS statement about nick and the ASHI SOP

The only reason nick lets non members come on and bash because he doesn't give a crap about the publics perception of his org. and nachi members, all he cares about is #s and $s.

Jason was correct on why you joined ashi,
Peace and Love thats what illegals clam that come to our country illegally, the only difference was you were trying to escape nick the dictator and you got busted..
Heck next time at least apply for a temporary visa or green card.
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[Ted Allen]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Todd, sorry I just read a couple of your posts and was surprised to learn that you think I "banned" you from something. Not true.

If you know the history of this message board, I have always fought (and often lost) to keep this message board a haven for free speech and I will continue to fight on behalf of freedom.

Well Nick you posted it so what am I to think?


Here you go.
Originally Posted by gromicko
Todd, Joe Farsetta has issued this clarification recently:

Conditions of Membership:

The NACHI COE states that it is the duty of each member to help promote the organization. To that end, a condition of membership in the organization is for any member that has a web site, brochure, or other marketing literature to include NACHI and/or "The National Association of Certified Home Inspectors" (in word, link, and/or text). Should another home inspection association be listed or referred to, it shall be positioned and sized in a manner equal to, or less prominent than that of NACHI. Should any member be found in violation of this rule, membership revocation can occur at any time, and without notice or recourse.


I have no problem with being banned, but I would like the truth to be told. I ask for nothing more.I do not want to hear about one of the office girls deleeting me. I want the truth and believe me when I say I will stop this BS when I get the truth.

So, why was I banned, who did it and why? If it was a dues thing just say so. I doubt that was the reason as I was promised lifetime by you Nick, but that really does not matter now. So someone please explain.

[James H. Bushart]

Starting tomorrow, in this forum, I will start a new thread. I will go through the ASHI message board and copy one interesting exchange per day for us to read and comment in.

Yes, ASHI members, you too can be a star....by appearing on the NACHI message board in all that you thought was hidden from the public eye.

You guys have until tomorrow to go through and delete your most embarassing posts.

[cmccann]

Nick,

Make sure you look behind you before you back peddle to fast, you might step into something that smells like...well...you know.

[Ted Allen]

Originally Posted by jbushart

Starting tomorrow, in this forum, I will start a new thread. I will go through the ASHI message board and copy one interesting exchange per day for us to read and comment in.

Yes, ASHI members, you too can be a star....by appearing on the NACHI message board in all that you thought was hidden from the public eye.

You guys have until tomorrow to go through and delete your most embarassing posts.

James, what exactly is the point of this?

[Ted Allen]

Originally Posted by tallen

If all you say is true than my banning was BS.

Here you go.
Originally Posted by gromicko
Todd, Joe Farsetta has issued this clarification recently:

Conditions of Membership:

The NACHI COE states that it is the duty of each member to help promote the organization. To that end, a condition of membership in the organization is for any member that has a web site, brochure, or other marketing literature to include NACHI and/or "The National Association of Certified Home Inspectors" (in word, link, and/or text). Should another home inspection association be listed or referred to, it shall be positioned and sized in a manner equal to, or less prominent than that of NACHI. Should any member be found in violation of this rule, membership revocation can occur at any time, and without notice or recourse.


Well, James, what say you?

Re post. Nick?

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by tallen

James, what exactly is the point of this?

Several, actually.

The first point is entertainment. These guys are funny, although they do not mean to be. In a technical thread, an ASHI inspector will ask a question...then he is blasted by other ASHI inspectors for not knowing the answer before he posted. Some of these guys really take themselves much too seriously.

The second is to show the public that the "mystique" that they created by branding is all fluff. Inspectors are inspectors.

The third is in response to folks like Dan Harris...ooops...I mean dan harris...who come here and tout that organization as if it represents such a higher standard of quality, integrity...etc...

They may as well have an open board as we do. The lights are coming their way, anyway.

Folks will be able to read through a sampling of the ASHI threads and form their own conclusions. I think it will be fun.

[Ted Allen]

Originally Posted by jbushart

Several, actually.

The first point is entertainment. These guys are funny, although they do not mean to be. In a technical thread, an ASHI inspector will ask a question...then he is blasted by other ASHI inspectors for not knowing the answer before he posted. Some of these guys really take themselves much too seriously.

The second is to show the public that the "mystique" that they created by branding is all fluff. Inspectors are inspectors.

The third is in response to folks like Dan Harris...ooops...I mean dan harris...who come here and tout that organization as if it represents such a higher standard of quality, integrity...etc...

They may as well have an open board as we do. The lights are coming their way, anyway.

Folks will be able to read through a sampling of the ASHI threads and form their own conclusions. I think it will be fun.

Well James I have been reading the ASHI board for about 2 years LOL, and you are right they are a bunch of pompous asses for the most part. I have seen multiple posts that were immediately corrected for spelling and grammar without even answering the question the poor member asked in the first place. I for one have no use for such a forum. You must remember that very few ASHI members post there for the same reason. Blain and a few others do the same thing here with the (sic) remark so as to let everyone know that they are better or more intelligent than the origanal poster.

I still do not understand your reason for posting threads from there forum as it will not help NACHI in any way.