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Old 4/21/07, 8:16 AM
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When I skim through the realtor advertisements in the newspapers, I notice a clear pattern. It's only the newbie and the unsuccessful Realtors that are representing this rotten type of property, such as is pictured in the original post. The truly skilled and seasoned Realtors aren't messing with this sort of property. As a result, the realtor complaint is in all likelihood coming from a guy who not only doesn't have much of a clue about home inspections, but about real estate sales, in general.
You picked up on that, too, huh?

For the last six months, since I created my WALK inspections, I was choosing not to inspect those types of properties either. I never said "No" though. I simply gave them an unrealistically high price or an unrealistically long lead time. That way they said "No" and moved on. I was much happier doing WALK inspections that have no report and no report liability and doing STANDARD inspections on properties built since 2002.



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Old 4/21/07, 8:18 AM
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All good points made here guys.

Usaully when I get a call like that I ask the realtor if he has the report in front of him. If he does not I tell him to call me back when he does have it. Then I ask him what in the report is wrong. The pictures go a long way into making him look like an ***. At the end of the convearsation, just for fun, ask him if he would let his mother buy the nome knowing the condition. If he says yes you know you are dealing with a real idiot.
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Old 4/21/07, 8:41 AM
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At the end of the convearsation, just for fun, ask him if he would let his mother buy the nome knowing the condition. If he says yes you know you are dealing with a real idiot.
Would depend on the price. Buying a home that has a significant amount of deferred maintenance or other problems does not make one a "real idiot." It does, however, quite often make one a property investor. Been there, done that.



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Old 4/21/07, 5:07 PM
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The pictures go a long way into making him look like an ***.
They are truly worth a thousand words, aren't they?! I think I "squandered" an opportunity to pick up the buyer's agent off of an internet-generated inspection because he couldn't refute the "new" problems that I found nor could he convince them that they "weren't a big deal". But like I would have landed him when there are a handful of the Dime-A-Dozens in this area (he tried to sway these clients to one of them) who go soft on the property, finish in an hour flat and provide a polarizing checklist that is 8 pages or less.

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Old 4/21/07, 5:35 PM
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dont sweat it Nick, you definitely have the right mindset. ps- checked out your site, looks great! Nice to see another young gun in biz my brother is 31 and I am 34. When we hit seminars it seems most inspectors are 45 plus.
When I was in my early 20's it was pretty tough for buyers to take me seriously. I think some gray hair gives extra credibility lol.
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Old 4/21/07, 8:50 PM
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dont sweat it Nick, you definitely have the right mindset. ps- checked out your site, looks great! Nice to see another young gun in biz my brother is 31 and I am 34. When we hit seminars it seems most inspectors are 45 plus.
When I was in my early 20's it was pretty tough for buyers to take me seriously. I think some gray hair gives extra credibility lol.
Agreed, its very tough dodging the misconception that "you need decades of contracting or engineering experience to be a good home inspector". That is why I raise the bar very high and constantly innovate.

Realtors who oppose me out of greed and not based on merits will have their day when their Dime-A-Dozen victimizes the wrong client...




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Old 4/21/07, 10:02 PM
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I find it very interesting that Realtors who represent C**P properties are always the ones who want the inspector laws and qualifications to be very high (PEs, former contractors, etc).

If these type of inspectors were really honest, they would red flag the place right off the bat.

I has a (former) PE do the inspection on my house, some 7 1/2 years ago.



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  • Lower level (split level) bathroom shower pan with no pipe in the drain (just the open shower pan drain draining to the slab, with a hole in the slab, offset 6" from underneath the shower pan drain).
  • Mold from hell.
  • missing grout in the 'shower'.
  • 3rd level tub overflow that leaked into the lower level basement ceiling.
  • Failed attic power vent fan.
  • Dryer vent was plastic.
  • Dryer vent connected to lower level bathroom exhaust fan.
The list goes on and on.

I ran a "house of horrors" in my house. The new guys found every single one of these problems. The "former PE" missed them.

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Looks like a lot of deferred home owner maintenance. Remember it is not you who killed the deal it is the person who did the maintenance on the building that is responsible for its current condition. And tell your realtor who appears to be so savy ask him if he ever heard of "AS IS" as a method of listing a property that is "Charming" and needs "A Little bit" of TLC" and "Has Loads of Potential".

This guy is an *****

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it is not you who killed the deal it is the person who did the maintenance on the building
Or did not do the maintenance on the building, as the case may be.



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Yup, it is amazing how many peple think that these things just taken care of
"Looks like a lot of deferred home owner maintenance."

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I carry a cheap salt and pepper shaker set (about a buck at the dollar store for a pair) in my tool bag. When realtors want a piece of my A*s or starting to chew on my A*s , I hand them the shakers, they usually stop and want to know what the shakers are for and I just simply say "that is to add a little flavor to my A*s you are chewing on" and walk away, good thing I do not rely on RE Agent referrals............
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Old 4/23/07, 2:04 PM
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I carry a cheap salt and pepper shaker set (about a buck at the dollar store for a pair) in my tool bag. When realtors want a piece of my A*s or starting to chew on my A*s , I hand them the shakers, they usually stop and want to know what the shakers are for and I just simply say "that is to add a little flavor to my A*s you are chewing on" and walk away, good thing I do not rely on RE Agent referrals............
No A1 Sauce or margaritas?



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I don't want to encourage them with anything more tasty than my backside
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Old 4/23/07, 11:40 PM
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Sounds like you did a good job keeping your cool. I have not had to deal with a upset realtor in over three years. I can't even imagine what I would have said to that Agent.

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When I skim through the realtor advertisements in the newspapers, I notice a clear pattern. It's only the newbie and the unsuccessful Realtors that are representing this rotten type of property, such as is pictured in the original post. The truly skilled and seasoned Realtors aren't messing with this sort of property. As a result, the realtor complaint is in all likelihood coming from a guy who not only doesn't have much of a clue about home inspections, but about real estate sales, in general.
Actually, in my area, I've heard several agents saying their brokers are on them hard - to get any and all listings they can get. They want all the listings, preparing for when the market turns. The news here keeps saying the RE market is so low, but the big offices are hiring new agents, scouring for listings, etc.
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