InterNACHI


Go Back   InterNACHI Inspection Forum > General Inspection Topics > General Inspection Discussion

Notices

General Inspection Discussion This is a place for general discussion about the home inspection industry. Try to keep the posts topical, but they need not be as specific as the other areas of this board.

 
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 10/17/10, 11:37 PM
Dan Bowers, CMI Dan Bowers, CMI is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Shawnee Mission, KS
Posts: 3,892
Default What Are These Things?

I was inspecting a 100-110 year old 3,700sf house with a basement, crawlspace and parts of the crawlspace dug out to be a decent sized cellar. Saw some funny stuff - wondered if anybody knows what it is?

1) The 1st 2 photos are of joists in the crawlspace. The wood looked kind of dimpled and I kept seeing little pieces of grey stuff about 6" long and as big around as my pencil eraser hanging down from the wood joists at various places.

2) The 3rd photo - Up in the attic, I had these sections of disconnected BUT still live wire going through little white polished looking tubes. Most of the wire had been covered with about 8"-10" of insulation (probably to keep it warm in the winter and keep someone from stepping on it).

3) The 4th and 5th Photo were the chimney on the roof and then the chimney in the attic going to the roof (couldn't figure out why they had removed some of the bricks unless it was to help ventilate it).
Attached Thumbnails
these-things-img_2097.jpg   these-things-img_2098.jpg   these-things-img_2094.jpg   these-things-img_2037.jpg   these-things-img_2096.jpg  

Reply With Quote
Need a home inspection in Idaho? Check out InterNACHI's listing of Idaho certified home inspectors. Or, find a home inspector anywhere in the world with our inspection search engine.
  #2  
Old 10/18/10, 12:33 AM
Christopher Currins's Avatar
Christopher Currins Christopher Currins is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Godfrey, IL
Posts: 7,608
Default Re: What Are These Things?

Things you may find in a 110 yr. old house.



Christopher Currins
Certified, Licensed

Proudly serving the St.Louis Metro

St. Charles, St. Peters, Maryland Heights,
O'Fallon, Florrisant, MO Home Inspector




BLESSED ARE THE CRACKED, FOR THEY ARE THE ONES WHO LET IN THE "LIGHT"!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10/18/10, 12:44 AM
Brian E. Kelly's Avatar
Brian E. Kelly Brian E. Kelly is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 15,973
Default Re: What Are These Things?

Quote:
Originally Posted by dbowers View Post
I was inspecting a 100-110 year old 3,700sf house with a basement, crawlspace and parts of the crawlspace dug out to be a decent sized cellar. Saw some funny stuff - wondered if anybody knows what it is?

1) The 1st 2 photos are of joists in the crawlspace. The wood looked kind of dimpled and I kept seeing little pieces of grey stuff about 6" long and as big around as my pencil eraser hanging down from the wood joists at various places.

2) The 3rd photo - Up in the attic, I had these sections of disconnected BUT still live wire going through little white polished looking tubes. Most of the wire had been covered with about 8"-10" of insulation (probably to keep it warm in the winter and keep someone from stepping on it).

3) The 4th and 5th Photo were the chimney on the roof and then the chimney in the attic going to the roof (couldn't figure out why they had removed some of the bricks unless it was to help ventilate it).
Just note in your report Dan that it is not a Code Inspection and you just provide the pictures as a courtesy.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10/18/10, 3:22 AM
Stephen W. Stanczyk's Avatar
Stephen W. Stanczyk Stephen W. Stanczyk is online now
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Kapowsin, WA
Posts: 4,965
Send a message via AIM to sstanczyk
Default Re: What Are These Things?

Quote:
Originally Posted by dbowers View Post
I was inspecting a 100-110 year old 3,700sf house with a basement, crawlspace and parts of the crawlspace dug out to be a decent sized cellar. Saw some funny stuff - wondered if anybody knows what it is?

1) The 1st 2 photos are of joists in the crawlspace. The wood looked kind of dimpled and I kept seeing little pieces of grey stuff about 6" long and as big around as my pencil eraser hanging down from the wood joists at various places.
Them are what we call "Twister turds". When the tornadoes come through the area, the rapid drop in baromometer pressure causes the wood to excrete them turds. It pulls the moisture, sawdust and dirt right out of them boards. At least that's what a code inspektor done told me.




Stephen Stanczyk
Washington State Licensed Home Inspector # 221
President, Washington Association of Property Inspectors (WAPI)
(253) 241-0602 calls answered until 10pm


Pierce County -Thurston County - King County - Snohomish County
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10/18/10, 5:54 AM
ldapkus ldapkus is offline
Active Poster
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 5,717
Please Note: ldapkus is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
Default Re: What Are These Things?

Where did you get certified to do these inspections and are you really a CMI?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10/18/10, 6:31 AM
Marcel R. Cyr's Avatar
Marcel R. Cyr Marcel R. Cyr is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Winslow, ME
Posts: 19,788
Default Re: What Are These Things?

Dan, besides the knob and tube wiring, and termites don't forget the aesbestos siding.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10/18/10, 7:01 AM
Peter C. Russell's Avatar
Peter C. Russell Peter C. Russell is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Alton Bay NH
Posts: 3,998
Default Re: What Are These Things?

That valley flashing/diverter doesn't look up to code either.
Write it up!!!!!!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10/18/10, 7:03 AM
Jeffrey R. Jonas's Avatar
Jeffrey R. Jonas Jeffrey R. Jonas is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Owatonna, MN
Posts: 12,172
Default Re: What Are These Things?

With all due respect Dan, I woulda' kinda' thought these were a 'gimmee' for you. My first thought was that you are being sarcastic. Right?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10/18/10, 8:12 AM
Wayne B. Wilson's Avatar
Wayne B. Wilson Wayne B. Wilson is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Powell, Tn
Posts: 8,226
Default Re: What Are These Things?

Dan
That is a fixer upper for TN , Lets see Just a adorable century Home with some loving care you will enjoy the grand old days.



Wayne Wilson
East TN Home Inspections LLC
Knoxville, Oak Ridge, Maryville, Clinton, Farragut, Lenoir City, Pigeon Forge, Sevierville and all the surrounding areas.
865-256-1490

http://site.myhomeinspection.net

Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10/18/10, 8:24 AM
Joe Funderburk, CMI's Avatar
Joe Funderburk, CMI Joe Funderburk, CMI is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Hickory Grove, SC
Posts: 8,342
Send a message via Yahoo to jfunderburk
Default Re: What Are These Things?

Quote:
Originally Posted by bkelly2 View Post
Just note in your report Dan that it is not a Code Inspection and you just provide the pictures as a courtesy.
Good one!



“The things that will destroy America are peace at any price,
prosperity at any cost, safety first instead of duty first,
the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.”
Theodore Roosevelt


Joe Funderburk, CMI
Alpha & Omega Home Inspections, LLC
Inspecting Upstate SC & Charlotte Metro, NC
NACHI ID: NACHI05120170
www.aohomeinspection.com


Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 10/18/10, 10:25 AM
Gary Farnsworth Gary Farnsworth is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Olathe, KS
Posts: 3,715
Default Re: What Are These Things?

This is a test. For the next 60 seconds, we will be performing a test of the national home inspection emergency alert system. This is only a test.



CMI, CPI, KS #0110-0094 Termite #16601
KS Radon #KS-MS-0027
BBB A+ Accredited Business
Serving the Greater Kansas City Metro Area
Eastern Kansas/Western Missouri
http://www.metrospeckc.com
"If opportunity doesn't knock, build a door"--Milton Berle
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 10/18/10, 10:27 AM
Dan Bowers, CMI Dan Bowers, CMI is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Shawnee Mission, KS
Posts: 3,892
Default Re: What Are These Things?

Marcel -

You mean that ribbed hard shingle siding outside might have been ACM. Now that really sets me to thinking. The front was OK but the back was all broken up and had missing sections, so they were stripping it off and dumping it in the alley behind the building to replace it with vinyl siding.

If that was asbestos, I wonder if the trash guy is really gonna haul it away.

Marcel, NOW that also makes me wonder what those big rolls of white stuff hanging off some of the old steel water pipes in the crawlspace was. It was about 3" thick and looked like the side profile of a cardboard box cut open. You could see the insides everywhere (looked like little cells) cause it was hanging down almost everywhere.

Last edited by dbowers; 10/18/10 at 11:02 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 10/18/10, 10:52 AM
Marcel R. Cyr's Avatar
Marcel R. Cyr Marcel R. Cyr is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Winslow, ME
Posts: 19,788
Default Re: What Are These Things?

That' hilarious Dan.
Reply With Quote
Need a home inspection in Idaho? Check out InterNACHI's listing of Idaho certified home inspectors. Or, find a home inspector anywhere in the world with our inspection search engine.
  #14  
Old 10/18/10, 11:01 AM
Dan Bowers, CMI Dan Bowers, CMI is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Shawnee Mission, KS
Posts: 3,892
Default Re: What Are These Things?

Jeffrey -


When business gets slow (only 3 jobs last week) I get bored, SO .......

Both these buildings are Commercial. The one on the right is a duplex; the one on the left is a 8-plex. Although rehabbed both are 100-110 years old.

Looking at photo #1 - The brick building seen at the rear between these 2 buildings is a battery manufacturer. Looking at photo #2 - The white block building about 9' to the side of the duplex is an old gas station and tire store. Think Phase 1 AND wonder if that had anything to do with why the owner was financing it himself.

Looking at photo #2 - You see the overhead electrical line coming from the pole to the duplex. Someone has added a rather large 2nd floor deck to the duplex and the meter is on the side of the duplex at the base of the deck. IF the overhead wire was run straight it would go across the center of the deck at a height of about 4'-5' above the deck floor.

THEREFORE they have ingeniously wrapped the overhead power lines around the large tree trunk / anchored them to the white block walls of the gas station / then run them on to the duplex wall and down to the meter.

This was a small town about 45 miles outside KC. I was to do both buildings for an out of state investor from Alaska. He had never seen the buildings except on the internet. The seller was financing everything. The buildings have been rehabbed AND like the seller (a doctor) said, the small town had VERY stringent codes and these had recently passed all CODE inspections, etc.

I had inspected the outside of the duplex; the buildings attic; the top duplex; then went to the cellar, basement, crawlspace. Once we found the Termite damage, etc the investor had me go look at the basement, crawlspace on the 8-plex. SAME deal ….

Probably most extensive case of termite damage I've seen in 20 years BECAUSE it wasn't just random (here or there). It was every other joist; the sub-floor; the rim joists; the sills in the newer addition; the girders; the support posts; etc, etc. To repair this right you would have needed to just about rebuild or replace the entire support structure - Then you wonder about what you can't see behind finishes.

The buyer had me stop the inspection at the basement. We didn't do the bottom of the duplex, its MAIN mechanicals, etc OR anything other than the support system in the 8-plex.

Turned out to be a much shorter day on site than I had planned.
Attached Thumbnails
these-things-img_2034.jpg   these-things-img_2035.jpg  

Last edited by dbowers; 10/18/10 at 7:51 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 10/18/10, 1:30 PM
James E. Braun, CMI's Avatar
James E. Braun, CMI James E. Braun, CMI is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Jefferson City, MO
Posts: 6,945
Default Re: What Are These Things?

I am guessing the camera flash makes the termite tunnels appear to be bright yellow. If the camera is not lying then looks like you most likely got some Penicillium mold growing.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Things are much worse than what I thought gbell Miscellaneous Discussion for Inspectors 8 9/17/08 5:59 PM
Things my mother taught me... jwilliams4 Miscellaneous Discussion for Inspectors 7 5/11/08 7:46 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 2:15 AM.


Popular Sections

:

All Sections

Inspection News

InterNACHI Membership

Inspection Standards

Inspection Education

InterNACHI Inspectors

Inspection Links

 

 

 

NACHI.ORG Statistics

 

 

no new posts