tired of being low-balled

[psiposs]

So I answer the call of prospective client, talk with the guy a half hour and seems he's sold. He wants a Mold inspection too which I do. Set a time and date and all seems well. Guy calls 2 hours later and says he's cancelling to go with another inspector who is $35 cheaper. I'm sick of this. I keep getting low-balled out but NACHI says to raise the prices! I've not changed my prices in 4 years and the housing market is crap here. Just fed up!

[Vince Santos]

Hang in there!
Being beaten out by 35 bucks is tough for sure and I can never understand how a prospective client wants to haggle over such a small amount.

You could beat the guy who stole your inspection at his own game and offer more inspection options. When you get that call back telling you the guy up the street does it for x amount of dollars less you can let your client know you can also do it for x amount of dollars less with a basic inspection.

[Bob Elliott]

Originally Posted by psiposs

So I answer the call of prospective client, talk with the guy a half hour and seems he's sold. He wants a Mold inspection too which I do. Set a time and date and all seems well. Guy calls 2 hours later and says he's cancelling to go with another inspector who is $35 cheaper. I'm sick of this. I keep getting low-balled out but NACHI says to raise the prices! I've not changed my prices in 4 years and the housing market is crap here. Just fed up!

I am never the lowest guy, so not rubbing salt in your wounds , but you may need to work on your phone voice.

Also you are referring to an axillary inspection which may be prone to a price shopper.

Why would a mold inspection need the higher priced guy.

It is easier to justifiy being a better Inspector than being better at spore samples.

[wsiegel]

If you are losing a job for $35.00 you are doing somehting wrong on the phone. I dont usually loose jobs, but last week I lost one to someone who was $100.00 higher than me - because he had a secretary and the client liked that.

[Russell J. Hensel]

I tell my secretary to ALWAYS refer price shoppers. They will freak out when you start giving your competitions phone number out. I tell them if you want price then I am not the guy to call. If you want QUALITY, then I am your man. Price shoppers are usually the biggest pains in the butt and they call back 9 years after the inspection complaining that their roof leaks and I never mentioned it in the report. I know in some areas its hard to make a living with the market, I was told by a guy who is ASHI #72 and FABI #4...so he was on the ground floor of inspections. He said NEVER lower your prices, just offer more for the money...Maybe a 90 day warranty (cost you $15 buck per inspection), If your report is superior, explain that. People always say...........My god it took you 3 hours and the bill is $900! I tell them it took me 10 YEARS and my bill is $900. I didn't learn this trade in 3 hours! People only see the time of the inspection they never look beyond the experience, insurance, tweaking of your reports, class, education, this message board...I have found my Niche where I live and it works for me. If you charge more and deliver more, people will use you. But if you charge more and deliver the same or less. Then why use you? Have an experienced outside inspector look at your operation, they may be able to give you some great ideas! An unbiased second opion ROCKS and it will amaze you what you haven't seen in the past....Just an idea...Take care and good luck.

As always, in my humble opion.

[David A. Andersen]

Maybe this is the time and market to not be bigger and better!

I'm getting pretty tired of price shoppers also. They call up wanting all kinds of stuff and then want it for nothing. The problem is, someone's giving it to them and that someone is on their way out the door come tax time.

Face it, times are tough and people need to watch their pennies.

I think there are two options. One is to perform every possible service that you can and do it on every single job. Charge what it takes and send people down the road if they want something else.

Second is to perform the best SOP inspection that you can, put the best possible price out there and quit trying to do all the extra stuff. Maybe you'll get volume and make up for the difference.

Make a plan and market it. Do volume in the local area and keep your overhead down. Don't try to work both sides of the fence.

You're either going to have to serve a hamburger in 60 seconds or concentrate on a full course sitdown meal. The important thing is that your client must know that they're going to the drive through.

Or on the other hand you can take the slow market, spend more time with your client and get e-mails like this one I received this morning:"Thank you for the very thorough explanation! I appreciate it more than you know! What a true professional Mr. Andersen."

[Nick Gromicko]

Raising your prices when your competitors charge less is the topic I'm speaking on at http://www.home-inspect.com/expo/?page=schedule and at http://www.nachi.org/weston2008.htm

Also, warranty at www.MountainWarranty.com

Also, read www.nachi.org/convert.htm use price as a sales tool.

[James E. Braun, CMI]

Originally Posted by relliott

I am never the lowest guy, so not rubbing salt in your wounds , but you may need to work on your phone voice.

Also you are referring to an axillary inspection which may be prone to a price shopper.

Why would a mold inspection need the higher priced guy.

It is easier to justifiy being a better Inspector than being better at spore samples.

You need to differentiate yourself on auxiliary inspections, just like you do home inspections. Ya, if an inspector just take a Prolab course and calls himself a mold inspector than their is no difference than another inspector who took a Prolab course. Whenever you decide to get into an auxiliary inspection, analyze your competition throughly. If you are not going to be the best in that field in your area than it probably won't be worth your time. Inspectors need to stop looking at auxiliary inspections as extra income, instead look at it as a specialty. When people start calling you an expert, make sure you charge as one. It works for me.

[Bob Elliott]

Originally Posted by jbraun

You need to differentiate yourself on auxiliary inspections, just like you do home inspections. Ya, if an inspector just take a Prolab course and calls himself a mold inspector than their is no difference than another inspector who took a Prolab course. Whenever you decide to get into an auxiliary inspection, analyze your competition throughly. If you are not going to be the best in that field in your area than it probably won't be worth your time. Inspectors need to stop looking at auxiliary inspections as extra income, instead look at it as a specialty. When people start calling you an expert, make sure you charge as one. It works for me.

Good point, and since I do not do the aux , my opinion may be the same as a potential clients.

Now sell me!

My actual thought is that a guy taking samples is the same as another guy taking samples. (just send the results) whats different from you buster.

[Nick Gromicko]

www.nachi.org/convert.htm

Also, with regard to ancillary services, don't forget to add them here: www.nachi.org/ancillary.htm

[James H. Bushart]

I will venture and say that you did not lose the inspection because your competitor was $35 cheaper...even if he was.

Your potential client found that he provided more value at less cost.

If "you talked" to the client for a half hour, as you said...you lost him before he even hung up the phone. If you ask your client a few leading questions and then carefully listen to him (instead of talk)....it will take you 3 to 5 minutes to book the appointment...or for him to move on to the next inspector.

Let's use Nick on this thread as a good example. Start at Post #13. (Sorry, Nick, but it is an immediate example to make a point).

Here are Nick's customers telling him what they want and need. Is he listening, or is he instead telling them what they should have and why he is such a better provider than his competition? Is Nick selling anyone...or are they simply biding time? Do they see a real benefit in what Nick thinks they should have - or in what he is telling them he is providing?

Your potential client wants to know how you can meet his needs - and you will not learn what they are by talking. Only by listening.

[Michael T. Jones]

These are slower times I agree, but I can honestly say I have more business today, than at this time last year. Mainly because of my reputation as a deal killer. My years of doing the right thing, not the easiest is paying off. Most real estate agents and savvy buyers know whats involved in a home inspection, due to the internet and home shows, so you need to sell yourself along with your business.

[Bob Elliott]

Originally Posted by mjones3

These are slower times I agree, but I can honestly say I have more business today, than at this time last year. Mainly because of my reputation as a deal killer. My years of doing the right thing, not the easiest is paying off. Most real estate agents and savvy buyers know whats involved in a home inspection, due to the internet and home shows, so you need to sell yourself along with your business.

Ditto!

[Scott Gilligan, CMI]

Originally Posted by psiposs

So I answer the call of prospective client, talk with the guy a half hour and seems he's sold. He wants a Mold inspection too which I do. Set a time and date and all seems well. Guy calls 2 hours later and says he's cancelling to go with another inspector who is $35 cheaper. I'm sick of this. I keep getting low-balled out but NACHI says to raise the prices! I've not changed my prices in 4 years and the housing market is crap here. Just fed up!

How do you quote a definitive price for a mold inspection without actually going to the site to do an assessment to advise the client on how many sample you would suggest be taken?

I tell clients that it costs Blah-Blah-Blah per sample. Then get a description from them about the problem the are concerned about. I then explain to them about the principles of sampling an what would be the absolute ideal sampling method for their particular situation. Then let them make an informed decision based on my recommendations. If they want to cut down the number of samples...that is fine by me. But you better bet that I inform them that it will decrease the size of the true picture of what is really going on with their mold problem. I always get 2 to 3 more samples than what I originally quoted as my bare minimum for a screening. It's all in the way you present it and make them realize the more samples that you take...the more information if can provide to make remediation recommendations. As with any statistical analysis...the larger the sample size...the more accurate your data set will be.

Salesmanship is always going to be a big part of ancillary services. Know your product or service better than the next guy and you will probably make more money and serve the client better than he ever would.

That brings me to another point. If you are going to offer other services...don't think of them as ancillary services. The term ancillary reminds me of something that really is not that important, but you will do it anyway. Become a specialist in every service that you offer and present it that way every call you get. Mold, radon, termite, water quality, septic systems, chimneys, yadda...yadda...yadda should not be SOMETHING ELSE you offer. They should be a valued expertise service that you are proud and confident to provide in addition to your home inspection services.

Upsell...Upsell...Upsell!!!

[Bob Elliott]

Originally Posted by sgilligan1

How do you quote a definitive price for a mold inspection without actually going to the site to do an assessment to advise the client on how many sample you would suggest be taken?

I tell clients that it costs Blah-Blah-Blah per sample. Then get a description from them about the problem the are concerned about. I then explain to them about the principles of sampling an what would be the absolute ideal sampling method for their particular situation. Then let them make an informed decision based on my recommendations. If they want to cut down the number of samples...that is fine by me. But you better bet that I inform them that it will decrease the size of the true picture of what is really going on with their mold problem. I always get 2 to 3 more samples than what I originally quoted as my bare minimum for a screening. It's all in the way you present it and make them realize the more samples that you take...the more information if can provide to make remediation recommendations. As with any statistical analysis...the larger the sample size...the more accurate your data set will be.

Salesmanship is always going to be a big part of ancillary services. Know your product or service better than the next guy and you will probably make more money and serve the client better than he ever would.

That brings me to another point. If you are going to offer other services...don't think of them as ancillary services. The term ancillary reminds me of something that really is not that important, but you will do it anyway. Become a specialist in every service that you offer and present it that way every call you get. Mold, radon, termite, water quality, septic systems, chimneys, yadda...yadda...yadda should not be SOMETHING ELSE you offer. They should be a valued expertise service that you are proud and confident to provide in addition to your home inspection services.

Upsell...Upsell...Upsell!!!

All this talk of selling is why I never went Agent.

I just help people.