Under Attack

[mrowan]

JB

You never give up!!

Keith, I feel your pain, and I too support you in all our endeavors on this side also.

Michael

[jbowman]

Originally Posted by mrowan

JB

You never give up!!

Keith, I feel your pain, and I too support you in all our endeavors on this side also.

Michael

Michael,

Can you please be a little more specific with the initials JB.

[Keith Swift, PhD.]

As everyone who knows me knows, I'm a bit of a dummy when it comes to computers, message boards, and politics, and I didn't understand what the initials "JB" meant either, but I relaxed when I saw the name John Bowman. There's a man I trust.

[mrowan]

Sorry John, I guest I will start typing Bushaaaaart in full!!

Michael

[jbowman]

Originally Posted by mrowan

Sorry John, I guest I will start typing Bushaaaaart in full!!

Michael

Fantastic...I don't want to see Joe Burkeson get upset....

[Joseph T. Burkeson, CMI]

Originally Posted by jbowman

Fantastic...I don't want to see Joe Burkeson get upset....

Yo Word!

[wforsyth]

Originally Posted by jburkeson1

Yo Word!

LOL

[Keith Swift, PhD.]

John McKenna:
Your response was appreciated and taken to heart. Consequently, I read what you post very carefully, and have been rethinking and trying to understand this whole CMI thing. I really wish we could convene a forum. Have you any idea how this can be instituted?

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by kswift

John McKenna:
Your response was appreciated and taken to heart. Consequently, I read what you post very carefully, and have been rethinking and trying to understand this whole CMI thing. I really wish we could convene a forum. Have you any idea how this can be instituted?

Keith,

A CMI Board that pre-dates Rowan's involvement is in existence and waiting for someone to consult it. I think this would be the first logical step in untangling this mess.

[Keith Swift, PhD.]

Then, why isn't that happening?

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by kswift

Then, why isn't that happening?

Rowan refuses.

Decided to set up his own group of people. He has refused every attempt made by the existing CMI Board to discuss CMI with him.

[Keith Swift, PhD.]

Well, that's that I suppose. Now, I can get back to garnering sympathy for myself and selling my book. Fight the good fight.

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by kswift

John McKenna:
Your response was appreciated and taken to heart. Consequently, I read what you post very carefully, and have been rethinking and trying to understand this whole CMI thing. I really wish we could convene a forum. Have you any idea how this can be instituted?

If I was given the task of improving or changing CMI,
the first thing I would want to do is communicate
with those people who would be most affected by
my changes... namely the current CMI members
and the CMI board.

To disregard their feelings and previous agreements
would be to show a complete disrespect for honor
and the desire to preserve relationship.

If I had to change things that the current CMI
people did not like, I would try to put myself in
their shoes and think of what would be fair
to all.

The fact that Nick has stated publicly on this
forum things that are 180 degrees different than
what Michael is now pushing into motion, leads
me to believe that the CMI division will soon
look like the grand canyon if something is not
done asap.

I would recommend a meeting on a private
forum between Michael and the current CMI
board. Michael should be willing to state
in written form (on the forum) all the answers
that the current CMI wants to ask him.
Nick should be present also.

This would limit the confusion factor to those
closest to the problem. The results of the
forum could then be published and a follow
up forum could be set up to continue the
process. People who want certain questions
answered could submit those questions in
writing before the meetings. The results
would be published for all to read.

Without full disclosure and communication,
the hurt feelings of betrayal will only grow
worse and more vocal. The new members
will suffer and many veteran members in
NACHI and CMI will be hurt.

IMHO.

The idea that we should all wait and let
Michael continue to build his version of
CMI regardless of the damage done, is
not an option. That is the spirit of a
violent take over and it will not be
pretty in the end. If Nick has to step
in after Michael has invested thousands
of dollars because things went to far
for too long... then that will be ugly too.

The attempt by Michael to side step the
current CMI people and sell his new
creation on the NACHI forum is a direct
slap in the face. It is arrogance at
the worst and naive at the least.

We need full disclosure and communication.
I am not asking to be present. I trust
Nick and Joe F. to do the right thing.

[Gerry Beaumont]

Originally Posted by jmckenna1

If I was given the task of improving or changing CMI,
the first thing I would want to do is communicate
with those people who would be most affected by
my changes... namely the current CMI members
and the CMI board.

Agreed, thats why I called you last week.

To disregard their feelings and previous agreements
would be to show a complete disrespect for honor
and the desire to preserve relationship.

Also mostly agreed and stated

If I had to change things that the current CMI
people did not like, I would try to put myself in
their shoes and think of what would be fair
to all.

Speaking only for myself, I hope to achieve that, time will tell.

The fact that Nick has stated publicly on this
forum things that are 180 degrees different than
what Michael is now pushing into motion, leads
me to believe that the CMI division will soon
look like the grand canyon if something is not
done asap.

I am not sure which of Nicks comments are germain here, but yes Chaos don't work.

I would recommend a meeting on a private
forum between Michael and the current CMI
board. Michael should be willing to state
in written form (on the forum) all the answers
that the current CMI wants to ask him.
Nick should be present also.

Michael has I believe stated that he needs to get this done.

This would limit the confusion factor to those
closest to the problem. The results of the
forum could then be published and a follow
up forum could be set up to continue the
process. People who want certain questions
answered could submit those questions in
writing before the meetings. The results
would be published for all to read.

I believe that is the future, or I wouldn't be here.

Without full disclosure and communication,
the hurt feelings of betrayal will only grow
worse and more vocal. The new members
will suffer and many veteran members in
NACHI and CMI will be hurt.

Totally agree with you.

IMHO.

The idea that we should all wait and let
Michael continue to build his version of
CMI regardless of the damage done, is
not an option. That is the spirit of a
violent take over and it will not be
pretty in the end. If Nick has to step
in after Michael has invested thousands
of dollars because things went to far
for too long... then that will be ugly too.

I don't believe that that is/will happen.

The attempt by Michael to side step the
current CMI people and sell his new
creation on the NACHI forum is a direct
slap in the face. It is arrogance at
the worst and naive at the least.

Every change of leadership invokes change, nothing stays the same in the real world.

We need full disclosure and communication.
I am not asking to be present. I trust
Nick and Joe F. to do the right thing.

So do I

Regards

Gerry

[John McKenna]

Gerry,

You agree that Michael should meet with the current
CMI board, but feel it is OK for Michael to keep pushing
his changes regardless of who is being affected?

That is an oxymoron. You are not consistent with your
position. As our stated "NACHI Guardian" will you demand
justice and call for a meeting right now?... or will you
continue to call for silence while the bull dozer keeps
plowing the house down?

You can't have it both ways and appear reputable.

Speaking out of both sides of your mouth never
sounds clear. Sorry if that offends you, but your
actions are louder than your words.