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Old 7/27/07, 9:17 PM
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I think some folks spend too little time marketing and too much time finding fault with others.
and Jae, the New Breed of Elite Home Inspectors is now CMI, not NACHI, just ask them.
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Mr. Capul,

I don't know you from a hill of beans, but I have looked at both websites you cite. I am compelled to say that you, sir, are full of sh!t. Whether or not they display the NACHI logo is a personal matter and business decision. They also use the NACHI name frequently. What right is it of yours to tell anyone how they should configure their website? Are you paying part of the costs? If this is the best you can come up with, you seriously need a life, or at least a hobby. I have been a member of this organization for almost a year and never posted until recently. It was stupidity such as this that has caused me to respond. If you have nothing positive to add, or necessary for debate, then find another activity. From what I see, you are just stirring the sh!t because you like the smell. Have a good day now, you hear.
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Old 7/27/07, 9:45 PM
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Quote: Michael W. Gault.
http://www.americascertifiedinspecti...ACHIMembership
and prominantly mentioned throughout the site...

Mike
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Hi to all,
Apparently Lewis Capaul is either blind, has poor reading comprehension skills, or is just plain stupid. My bet is that …………………. he is just plain stupid, because even someone with the lowest level of reading comprehension skills can "see" the NACHI logos on these pages.

Lewis is famous for his "irrational and just plain stupid denunciations". His attack will now shift to okay, okay I will admit that it is on "some" pages but not all. He will ignore the fact that two entire pages are devoted strictly to NACHI and go on to attack some other "imaginary wrong" to either him, the industry, or to the general public.

Lewis, the fact that you are on an old, mangy, falling down horse, charging at a tilting windmill is not as laughable as the fact that you are "completely exposed" as an idiot while you do so! You are destroying what ever credibility that you might have had. And I repeat "might have had"!

It is Friday night, and I am sure that you have had one or two drinks under your belt that has only thrown fire on the "gasoline soaked brain" of yours.

All I will say is this ………… I have inspection reports to complete, and I don't want to waste my time on a clown like you. So go ahead, and continued to make a complete and utter jackass of yourself. When you have the time click on the links below and you will see the NACHI logo, and the NACHI name prominently displayed.
  • You don't have to "read the words" just look at the pictures, they will explain themselves.
http://www.americascertifiedinspectioncompanyllc.com/NACHIMembership

http://www.americascertifiedinspectioncompanyllc.com/NACHICodeofEthics

http://www.americascertifiedinspectioncompanyllc.com/Whyorderonline

http://www.americascertifiedinspectioncompanyllc.com/TheListingInspection

http://www.americascertifiedinspectioncompanyllc.com/WhatWeInspect

http://www.americascertifiedinspectioncompanyllc.com/BUILDINGHOMEINSPECTOR {FAQ}

http://www.americascertifiedinspectioncompanyllc.com/HiddenWaterDamage

http://www.americascertifiedinspectioncompanyllc.com/RealEstateInspectionsbyaCertifiedHomeBuildingInspe ctorOrderanInspection

http://www.americascertifiedinspectioncompanyllc.com/BuyorSellaHome



Signed, Frank Carrio, CMI
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Certified Commercial Building Inspector
Certified, WDI Inspector
Founder & Current President, New Hampshire State Chapter NACHI
NACHI, State Representative for Legislative Affairs
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Retired: Code Compliance Inspector.
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Old 7/27/07, 10:09 PM
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I went and looked at Frank's web site and he mentions NACHI nine times.... that
is nine times more than zero.

BTW... nice site Frank.

Also... I like what Mr Williams had to say.

NACHI provides no special benefits to CMI inspectors and NACHI has
no membership requirements relating to CMI. Therefore NACHI does
not treat CMI as anything more than it's intended purpose, which is simply
a designation that any inspector, from any association can earn.

I try not to advertise the CMI designation too much on the NACHI
forum, but sometimes certain people offer a slam dunk, and I
cannot resist.




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Executive Director - Master Inspector Certification Board
25 Yrs Constr Exp - 13 Yrs Home Inspector Exp
American Home Inspection - East Texas.

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Old 7/27/07, 10:13 PM
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Quote: Michael W. Gault.
http://www.americascertifiedinspecti...ACHIMembership
and prominantly mentioned throughout the site...

Mike
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Hi to all,
Apparently Lewis Capaul is either blind, has poor reading comprehension skills, or is just plain stupid. My bet is that …………………. he is just plain stupid, because even someone with the lowest level of reading comprehension skills can "see" the NACHI logos on these pages.

Lewis is famous for his "irrational and just plain stupid denunciations". His attack will now shift to okay, okay I will admit that it is on "some" pages but not all. He will ignore the fact that two entire pages are devoted strictly to NACHI and go on to attack some other "imaginary wrong" to either him, the industry, or to the general public.

Lewis, the fact that you are on an old, mangy, falling down horse, charging at a tilting windmill is not as laughable as the fact that you are "completely exposed" as an idiot while you do so! You are destroying what ever credibility that you might have had. And I repeat "might have had"!

It is Friday night, and I am sure that you have had one or two drinks under your belt that has only thrown fire on the "gasoline soaked brain" of yours.

All I will say is this ………… I have inspection reports to complete, and I don't want to waste my time on a clown like you. So go ahead, and continued to make a complete and utter jackass of yourself. When you have the time click on the links below and you will see the NACHI logo, and the NACHI name prominently displayed.
  • You don't have to "read the words" just look at the pictures, they will explain themselves.
http://www.americascertifiedinspectioncompanyllc.com/NACHIMembership

http://www.americascertifiedinspectioncompanyllc.com/NACHICodeofEthics

http://www.americascertifiedinspectioncompanyllc.com/Whyorderonline

http://www.americascertifiedinspectioncompanyllc.com/TheListingInspection

http://www.americascertifiedinspectioncompanyllc.com/WhatWeInspect

http://www.americascertifiedinspectioncompanyllc.com/BUILDINGHOMEINSPECTOR {FAQ}

http://www.americascertifiedinspectioncompanyllc.com/HiddenWaterDamage

http://www.americascertifiedinspectioncompanyllc.com/RealEstateInspectionsbyaCertifiedHomeBuildingInspe ctorOrderanInspection

http://www.americascertifiedinspectioncompanyllc.com/BuyorSellaHome
Where are the NACHI Logo's on your HOme Page Frank?

http://www.americascertifiedinspecti...m/default.aspx

http://www.americascertifiedinspectioncompanyllc.com/

Why would you hide them on your Home Page, it seems a great NACHI Leader would display them Proudly.....
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Old 7/27/07, 10:21 PM
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I went and looked at Frank's web site and he mentions NACHI nine times.... that
is nine times more than zero.

BTW... nice site Frank.

Also... I like what Mr Williams had to say.

NACHI provides no special benefits to CMI inspectors and NACHI has
no membership requirements relating to CMI. Therefore NACHI does
not treat CMI as anything more than it's intended purpose, which is simply
a designation that any inspector, from any association can earn.

I try not to advertise the CMI designation too much on the NACHI
forum, but sometimes certain people offer a slam dunk, and I
cannot resist.

If you looked, then where's his logo? Not on his home page where you would think, the CMI logo is there, at least you display both on yours equally, or close, but others, although they may mention Nachi in the text do not do so on their home pages, the page that most clients stop at.

The Nachi Logo doesn't take up much space, why push it back to sencondary pages if they are so proud of it's signifigance.

You can say what ever you want about NACHI's relationship with CMI, but all anyone has to do is look at the names of CMI's board members to see the two are in effect the same, just like Certified Residential Inspector, except CMI costs more.
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Old 7/27/07, 10:28 PM
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If you looked, then where's his logo? Not on his home page where you would think, the CMI logo is there, at least you display both on yours equally, or close, but others, although they may mention Nachi in the text do not do so on their home pages, the page that most clients stop at.

The Nachi Logo doesn't take up much space, why push it back to secondary pages if they are so proud of it's signifigance.

You can say what ever you want about NACHI's relationship with CMI, but all anyone has to do is look at the names of CMI's board members to see the two are in effect the same, just like Certified Residential Inspector, except CMI costs more.
I doubt you're really concerned about NACHI's logo, but want to make a silly
point to find fault. You are still stinging from being kicked out of NACHI.

In order for CMI to be a second tier (special status) of NACHI... then NACHI
would have to offer some privileges, and benefits to CMI inspectors (which
it does not). NACHI would also have to have some membership requirement
in place about CMI (which it does not).

So, if CMI is the second tier, then where are all my goodies? LOL...
Have a nice day.



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Old 7/27/07, 10:34 PM
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I went and looked at Frank's web site and he mentions NACHI nine times.... that
is nine times more than zero.

BTW... nice site Frank.

Also... I like what Mr Williams had to say.

NACHI provides no special benefits to CMI inspectors and NACHI has
no membership requirements relating to CMI. Therefore NACHI does
not treat CMI as anything more than it's intended purpose, which is simply
a designation that any inspector, from any association can earn.

I try not to advertise the CMI designation too much on the NACHI
forum, but sometimes certain people offer a slam dunk, and I
cannot resist.

John, I've asked you this before, just what kind of Inspectors does your "board" certify? Read your application very close and tell me where it refers to Home Inspectors, or where ancillary inspections are not counted, according to your application any inpsection "on a home" would qualify, also check out the bottom of your "Schools Page", where all the NACHI vendor/members interested in pushing CMI are, and read one of the last lines, it's interesting that you guys can Certify School Boards.
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Old 7/27/07, 10:52 PM
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I doubt you're really concerned about NACHI's logo, but want to make a silly
point to find fault. You are still stinging from being kicked out of NACHI.

In order for CMI to be a second tier (special status) of NACHI... then NACHI
would have to offer some privileges, and benefits to CMI inspectors (which
it does not). NACHI would also have to have some membership requirement
in place about CMI (which it does not).

So, if CMI is the second tier, then where are all my goodies? LOL...
Have a nice day.
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In order for CMI to be a second tier (special status) of NACHI... then NACHI
would have to offer some privileges, and benefits to CMI inspectors (which
it does not). NACHI would also have to have some membership requirement
in place about CMI (which it does not).
Why would there need to be special privileges John? Isn't the designation enough. On Jae's web site, a good one, he says that "NACHI is the new breed of Elite Home Inspectors", it would seem that Nick has created an even newer breed, one with even less requirements than being a Certified Home Inspector, which at least requires taking an on-line test.

NACHI members should be happy that Nick is creating competition for them, and endorsing it when he doesn't create it as with Advantage.

I tried to get rid of the NACHI Logo on my website a couple of months ago, but it was part of Roberta's template and I had to get with her, sometimes hard to do, to have it removed, there has been no mention of NACHI on my site other than that since Bushart destroyed any credibility that your SOP had. My new brochures and business cards also did not have any reference to NACHI, what a coincidence.

I agree with Frank and Joe F., why have the NACHI Logo displayed on your Home Page if you don't HAVE to? Just keep your relationship on other pages or in small print.
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Old 7/27/07, 11:14 PM
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When two kids go to school, one may receive a star for accomplishing something
that day. Some of the other kids see this as a good thing and it inspires them.

Some kids complain, because they think it's unfair that someone else got a star
and they did not. They don't like to have to compete and achieve.

Some kids really don't care and will seek to mock the star, the process, the
teacher and the entire class. They live to mock everyone, because they
have an insecurity about their own personal self worth. Attacking others,
in the class, is a defense mechanism for them. It is their way of dealing with
feelings of rejection and self condemnation... that may have it's roots deeper than
they will ever understand in this life time (for some).

No matter what you say, these children have a chip on their shoulder and
cannot leave the security of putting others down, while they seek harder
and harder to be right in their own eyes... even to their own alienation.
Even after being alienated from the rest of the class, they still see everyone
as wrong, except them.

The terror of dealing with their own fears of self worth will not allow
them to admit that they are the ones with an attitude problem...
even while the other children continue to get along and are happy.

It makes them mad, to see other children happy.

Sad.



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Old 7/27/07, 11:20 PM
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Ouch!
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Old 7/27/07, 11:50 PM
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Lewis,

tisk, tisk, tisk...

No, I do not advertise CMI on my website, though I am one. I am not required to. So what? Am I ashamed of the designation? Absolutely NOT. I am quite proud of it. I use it in print media and in presentations. I also use the designation when I run a class. I want the designation, but do not need it on my website.

As to no NACHI logo, again, you are accurate. I provide a link to the NACHI site, and do not belong to, nor advertise, any other home inspection association. I am in full compliance. I am not required to provide a link to NACHI nor Find an Inspector, but I do provide one to the former, and not the latter. I do provide alternate links to inspection sites which I benefit providing a reciprocal link to.

Again, your point is what?

For the record, your posts are really quite pitiful. Like a child stamping his feet, actually.
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So many psychologists in NACHI, maybe some people just have a problem with people who kiss ***** to be accepted by those they believe have power over them, or to be accepted by someone, anyone, or any group just so they can have the sense of belonging. I see a lot of that here, that's why so few stand up to Bushart and Nicks policy of "Ask me no questions and I'll tell you know lies", but they lie to you anyway.

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it makes them mad, to see other children happy.
If you want to see happy children John go to the State Legislation forum and read the first several pages of the thread titled "You aren't going to believe this...", there you will see happy children, all most every one of the NACHI Leadership being "happy", maybe you find their post humorous, are you a happy child too John, are you just another member of the flock, afraid to make waves about things you think are wrong because someone might not like you.

Stick to Home Inspection John where you are probably very good, and I hope you can continue to be a happy child.
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Lewis,

tisk, tisk, tisk...

No, I do not advertise CMI on my website, though I am one. I am not required to. So what? Am I ashamed of the designation? Absolutely NOT. I am quite proud of it. I use it in print media and in presentations. I also use the designation when I run a class. I want the designation, but do not need it on my website.

As to no NACHI logo, again, you are accurate. I provide a link to the NACHI site, and do not belong to, nor advertise, any other home inspection association. I am in full compliance. I am not required to provide a link to NACHI nor Find an Inspector, but I do provide one to the former, and not the latter. I do provide alternate links to inspection sites which I benefit providing a reciprocal link to.

Again, your point is what?

For the record, your posts are really quite pitiful. Like a child stamping his feet, actually.
My point Joe, is that you as the Great NACHI Leader, seem to be ashamed publicly of your relationship with NACHI, I never said YOU were not in compliance with NACHI's rules, only that like several other CMI's and leaders you seem to demonstrate by you lack of NACHI Logo etc, that NACHI may be harmful to your business, you refer people to non-nachi inspectors, I thank you for your use of Inspectionzone, if you look at Idaho you'll find me right on top there and in the Spokane area.

It just seems strange to me that those who hype NACHI so much, don't give it any priority on their own web sites. I agree it's probably a smart business decision.
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Lewis,

Ask Nick gromicko. When I'm cut, he swears I bleed blue and gray. Ashamed of NACHI? No way, my friend. I was recently asked to join a home inspection association that represents themself as the voice of the home inspection industry here in NY. We stood, and stand, shoulder to shoulder with regard to issues facing licensed inspectors here in NY. They respect my opinion, and vaslue my input nto the process. No egos. In that capacity, I represent NACHI, proudly.

I have been a member of this org since it had under 400 members. I have done lots for it.

I also make decisions about things. Some are good, and some are not so good. I'm comfortable with that. When I have made a mistake, my ego isnt so big that I wont admit when I am wrong.

As to your expulsion, I am comfortable in saying that the decision to cut you loose was a correct one.

As to your inane comments about me being ashamed of this org, you couldnt be further from the truth. Ask Nick Gromicko. Ask Deanna Willis. Ask Lisa Endza. Ask any of the hundreds of students I have taught. Ask anyone you'd like.

Ashamed of NACHI? Hardly.

Dont confuse a possible limitation of the programmer (me) or a limitation of the website, with a conscious effort to hide ones involvement in an org. I am possibly guilty of the former, but never the latter.

Also, a smart person once chided me to not help play the competition's theme song. That person is my wife. Hence, my decision to not directly provide a link to Find an Inspector. Why would I want to lure soeone to my website, only to send them to another, which happens to list other competent NACHI inspectors in my own backyard?!!

What a jackass you can be. I thought you were smarter than this...
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