Why NACHI Needs ASHI

[Charlie Q. Griswald, Jr]

A fellow ASHI member has brought to your message board certain posts that have recently appeared on the ASHI message board for our members' eyes only.

I want to thank him for eliminating the names from the posts since they were made by some very high ranking members and former members of our board of directors and other high positions within ASHI.

If you have not read them you can see them by going to post #143 on this thread http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthrea...t=26053&page=8

It is true that ASHI is in the nova stage but it is important that NACHI works with us to help keep ASHI alive for you need us out there promoting the profession.

We all know that there is no longer the distinction that goes along with membership with us as there used to be and we don't need to keep attacking that point. We should understand that there are a lot of people who think we are still reflecting a high standard and who does that hurt? Does it not help all inspectors for the public to think well of home inspectors?

Maybe there won't be an ASHI in two or three years. Then, what will you do?

[Henry Valenzano, CMI]

Originally Posted by Charlie Q. Griswald, Jr

A fellow ASHI member has brought to your message board certain posts that have recently appeared on the ASHI message board for our members' eyes only.

I want to thank him for eliminating the names from the posts since they were made by some very high ranking members and former members of our board of directors and other high positions within ASHI.

If you have not read them you can see them by going to post #143 on this thread http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthrea...t=26053&page=8

It is true that ASHI is in the nova stage but it is important that NACHI works with us to help keep ASHI alive for you need us out there promoting the profession.

We all know that there is no longer the distinction that goes along with membership with us as there used to be and we don't need to keep attacking that point. We should understand that there are a lot of people who think we are still reflecting a high standard and who does that hurt? Does it not help all inspectors for the public to think well of home inspectors?

Maybe there won't be an ASHI in two or three years. Then, what will you do?

I for one do not bereave in removing names. If you say something stand behind it. Why would I want to keep ashi alive. They stoled over $300 from me and they deceive the public. I see no reason to support them. ashi has some great inspectors that are members of there association but the association is an insult to the industry.

Your last statement is music to my ears!! Ill have a party.

[jbettencourt]

Maybe interNachi would be able to carry on promoting the profession? Oh No whatever will all the poor home inspectors do!

[tdietrich1]

Originally Posted by hvalenzano

Why would I want to keep ashi alive. They stoled over $300 from me and they deceive the public.

Maybe sharing your story might help the OP appreciate your position.

thx,

tom

[Charlie Q. Griswald, Jr]

Originally Posted by hvalenzano

I for one do not bereave in removing names. If you say something stand behind it. Why would I want to keep ashi alive. They stoled over $300 from me and they deceive the public. I see no reason to support them. ashi has some great inspectors that are members of there association but the association is an insult to the industry.

Your last statement is music to my ears!! Ill have a party.

OK, Henry.

Like it or not, ASHI members and NACHI members are in this together.

Your association has surpassed ours. We are admitting that, not just here on your message board either. Our own directors are agreeing that Nick Gromicko's model for a home inspector organization best serves its members.

But you have to admit that it was ASHI's reputation that drove NACHI harder to be better. You cannot light a match on a bar of soap, Henry.

Together, maybe not on purpose, but still together, ASHI and NACHI have built this profession to what it is and shares in a duty to take it further. NACHI has that ability where ASHI does not.

We are down to 3500 members according to our last report and there is talk that almost one-third of them are not actually inspecting houses. We may not be totally relevant or on the cutting edge but we do have some things we can offer the industry if we are allowed to participate with you.

[Peter C. Russell]

Can someone please draw the curtains and shut off the lights because the shows over!!!

[Charlie Q. Griswald, Jr]

OK. Very funny.

Can someone tell me why I got this?




Why NACHI Needs ASHI 3/1/08 3:43 PM poopy head

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by Charlie Q. Griswald, Jr

OK. Very funny.

Can someone tell me why I got this?




Why NACHI Needs ASHI 3/1/08 3:43 PM poopy head

Sorry for this happening Charlie we too at NACHI have a very very few small people who have no gonads.

Please except my apology for them as they lack the ability to tell you who they are and why they disagree with your post.
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[Charlie Q. Griswald, Jr]

Thanks, Roy.

I am very glad to see that you were able to see fit to return to NACHI. Every family has a flare up now and then.

[Henry Valenzano, CMI]

Originally Posted by Charlie Q. Griswald, Jr

OK, Henry.

Like it or not, ASHI members and NACHI members are in this together.

Your association has surpassed ours. We are admitting that, not just here on your message board either. Our own directors are agreeing that Nick Gromicko's model for a home inspector organization best serves its members.

But you have to admit that it was ASHI's reputation that drove NACHI harder to be better. You cannot light a match on a bar of soap, Henry.

Together, maybe not on purpose, but still together, ASHI and NACHI have built this profession to what it is and shares in a duty to take it further. NACHI has that ability where ASHI does not.

We are down to 3500 members according to our last report and there is talk that almost one-third of them are not actually inspecting houses. We may not be totally relevant or on the cutting edge but we do have some things we can offer the industry if we are allowed to participate with you.

Your correct the members are in this together. The associations are nothing without the members. ashi s reputation did not make NACHI work harder. ashi pissed off there member and the members went to where they were respected.

[bdoles2]

Originally Posted by Charlie Q. Griswald, Jr

...but we do have some things we can offer the industry if we are allowed to participate with you.

So what is it you have to offer?

[iniquette]

I joined NACHI because I thought it offered me more than ASHI. But I do believe that the two need each other. The consumers are the ones that need both of them the most though. If you have one giant that sets all the rules, there is nothing to strive for. There is no reason to improve anything, or a reason to be innovative in your processes. And for that reason alone, I joined NACHI. But I do believe there has to be competition and cooperation between the two parties. Different views are healthy for everyone involved. Eventually NACHI will be the longbeard on the block and a new group will come along and push us to become better and stronger, therefore improving the industry and serving our clients better. Maybe that group will surpass NACHI, maybe not. Time will tell.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by bdoles2

So what is it you have to offer?

Quote: Originally Posted by Charlie Q. Griswald, Jr ...but we do have some things we can offer the industry if we are allowed to participate with you. By coming to NACHI where we all tend to help every one on our open BB this shows ASHI and the other associations how friendly and open we are .

This BB is also visited extremely often by the Canadian ASHI chapter ( OAHI/CAHPI ) as this seems to be the only place where much information is posted.
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[Peter C. Russell]

Originally Posted by iniquette

I joined NACHI because I thought it offered me more than ASHI. But I do believe that the two need each other. The consumers are the ones that need both of them the most though. If you have one giant that sets all the rules, there is nothing to strive for. There is no reason to improve anything, or a reason to be innovative in your processes. And for that reason alone, I joined NACHI. But I do believe there has to be competition and cooperation between the two parties. Different views are healthy for everyone involved. Eventually NACHI will be the longbeard on the block and a new group will come along and push us to become better and stronger, therefore improving the industry and serving our clients better. Maybe that group will surpass NACHI, maybe not. Time will tell.

Ian, I have to give you my view on ASHI which may be different than others. Here in NH we are facing licensing and the local ASHI chapter has set up a independent coalition to confuse the state legislators. They have written a bill that mirrors ASHIs membership requirements and have lied and been deceptive in their vain attempt to gain control of the inspection industry here in NH. They have lied so much that their lobbyist actually quit in front of a house of representatives committee hearing.

They have also attempted to gain support from me and other NACHI members under the guise that we all need to work together, which by the way is the theme of this thread, while I agree with this premise, it was less than a month later that my state senator read me a email that was sent to him stating that we, NACHI inspectors, basically couldn't inspect a dog house and are all unqualified.

Now that is whats happening in my neck of the woods, the ASHI members here in NH are back stabbing liars that cannot be trusted, so why should we NACHI members think for a moment that this industry needs back stabbers and liars to help keep this industry professional. In my opinion the sooner this organisation goes under the better, not only for the consumer but the industry as well.

All of the above is JMHO.

[dharris]

Charlie Q. Griswald, Jr]
Like it or not, ASHI members and NACHI members are in this together.

Together, maybe not on purpose, but still together, ASHI and NACHI have built this profession to what it is and shares in a duty to take it further. NACHI has that ability where ASHI does not.

We are down to 3500 members according to our last report and there is talk that almost one-third of them are not actually inspecting houses. We may not be totally relevant or on the cutting edge but we do have some things we can offer the industry if we are allowed to participate with you.

So Charley, I see your back, been talking to John lately

Are you saying that ASHI should hand out free memberships, and market inspectors to the public by simply requiring them to take an on line open book quiz, make them promise to other things, after they are already marketed to the public as certified inspectors?

Or are you saying ASHI should start being like nick, and offer non existent bogus benefits, or benefits that any inspector can get with out belonging to an HI org, and make it look like only ASHI can offer those things for it's members?



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