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Old 3/25/07, 8:38 AM
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Default Why New Hampshire home buyers call me...

I perform many home inspections in Southern New Hampshire and this story will explain why...

http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/...40344/-1/XML07
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Old 3/25/07, 8:59 AM
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Hi David
The story states the inspector inspects by Mass. standards, how does that help you? or are you refering that they call you because your licensed?
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Old 3/25/07, 11:52 AM
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Hi David
The story states the inspector inspects by Mass. standards, how does that help you? or are you refering that they call you because your licensed?
Sorry,

I should have been more explicit.

Many NH home buyers tell me that they would like to book with me because NH inspectors are not licensed. Being licensed works in my favor.
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Old 3/25/07, 1:55 PM
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I perform many home inspections in Southern New Hampshire and this story will explain why...

http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/...40344/-1/XML07
southern new hampshire pretty much is massachusetts!

i find it hard to believe that owner isn't suing because of no license laws. and although mass licensing may get border inspectors some new hampshire business i am suspect of who might really be behind this article. perhaps asshi is gearing up for a next year fight and is trying to set some fires.

the article has no validity. there is nothing backing up the articles claim that licensing reduces inspection errors. perhaps we should respond to this damaging, broad-stroked article.

david, more than likely you get southern nh business because of your good reputation.

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Old 3/25/07, 3:19 PM
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It is just hard to believe with all the requirements we have in TX that some states you can still perform insp. w/out a license. It is a Class A misdemeanor here not having one and doing an insp.. In addition, TX requires 448 hours of training just to qualify to take the state exam which aint' no cakewalk either.



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Old 3/25/07, 3:27 PM
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southern new hampshire pretty much is massachusetts!
Ok...Great. If that's the case...Let's just slide southern New Hampshire over the Massachusetts border a bit.

There...Now I don't have to drive as far.

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Old 3/25/07, 4:07 PM
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southern new hampshire pretty much is massachusetts!

i find it hard to believe that owner isn't suing because of no license laws. and although mass licensing may get border inspectors some new hampshire business i am suspect of who might really be behind this article. perhaps asshi is gearing up for a next year fight and is trying to set some fires.
Hi Andy,
Yes it seems kind of "suspicious"that on the day this Bill was defeated this article suddenly appears.


the article has no validity. there is nothing backing up the articles claim that licensing reduces inspection errors. perhaps we should respond to this damaging, broad-stroked article.

It should also be noted that this "inspector" is already licensed!.He is an ASHI member, and he is "licensed"and the state of Massachusetts.
david, more than likely you get southern nh business because of your good reputation.

andy frost
madison, nh
Andy,
I hope to see you at next Wednesday's meeting.



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Old 3/25/07, 8:43 PM
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Hi Andy;
Please, with no disregard to you, I would appreciate it if you would stop referring to southern NH as part of Mass. You did it on another post where I commented on how nice Portsmouth is and this is where I live. We are in no way part of Mass and are very much a part of NH as you are in the north country.

That said, I hope to see you at our next chapter meeting as I feel your input is very important as well as your support of NACHI, no matter what town we live in.
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Old 3/25/07, 8:49 PM
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It is just hard to believe with all the requirements we have in TX that some states you can still perform insp. w/out a license. It is a Class A misdemeanor here not having one and doing an insp.. In addition, TX requires 448 hours of training just to qualify to take the state exam which aint' no cakewalk either.
You openion do you think that is good or bad ?
We in Ontario do not have a requirement and from what I see and hear it is the best way to go .
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Old 3/26/07, 3:58 PM
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You openion do you think that is good or bad ?
We in Ontario do not have a requirement and from what I see and hear it is the best way to go .
Roy Cooke
I think it really weeds out alot of people which is good. Actually, I think that the 448 classroom hrs are not enough. There should be another couple hundred hours, at least, in the field. At least 50 to 75 practice inspections. The licensing helps to brings professionalism and a standard to the industry. I always get asked if I am licensed. If I were to tell them it is not required to be licensed in XXX state then it would make alot of the clients think twice about getting an insp.



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Old 3/26/07, 4:03 PM
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The licensing helps to brings professionalism and a standard to the industry. I always get asked if I am licensed.
You are always asked because, in your state, it would be illegal for you to operate without one. You are not asked because your client has a choice and picks "licensed" over "unlicensed".

We need to help you guys in Texas get free of the real estate agents that control you. Let's get those stupid licensing laws repealed.



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Old 3/26/07, 5:01 PM
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I think it really weeds out alot of people which is good. Actually, I think that the 448 classroom hrs are not enough.
What if we "raise the bar" to require that anyone who wants to be a home inspector In Texas should be ICC certified as a code compliance inspector, and or they should be a professional engineer.

There should be another couple hundred hours, at least, in the field.
Once again Texas could or should require everyone to be a professional engineer.

At least 50 to 75 practice inspections.
That is not enough!
In order not to make a "mockery" of any licensing laws a minimum of 2,000 supervised home inspections should be required.
The licensing helps to brings professionalism and a standard to the industry.
Man oh man, you got that right as you can see by the evidence of the home inspectors newspaper article this "home inspector" was licensed by the state of Massachusetts and trained by ASHI.
So yes he did set any "standard of professionalism "

I always get asked if I am licensed. If I were to tell them it is not required to be licensed in XXX state then it would make alot of the clients think twice about getting an insp.
You might have a point there, New Hampshire is an "unlicensed state" and as far as I know there has never been a single home inspection conducted in this state.


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the article has no validity. there is nothing backing up the articles claim that licensing reduces inspection errors.

It should also be noted that this "inspector" is already licensed!.He is an ASHI "Certified Member" , and he is "licensed"in the state of Massachusetts.



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Old 3/26/07, 5:29 PM
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Interesting to note... that the year Texas decided to triple it's
hours required to become an inspector (and increase the number
of test questions also)... it prompted about 900 people to become
inspectors, just before the law went into affect.

This last year, only approx. 26 people became inspectors.
The law will not making anything perfect, but it can sometimes
be a benefit, to a degree... and... makes it harder for the fly by
night guy to do business.



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Old 3/26/07, 8:28 PM
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The article does bring up a good point. The seller is wondering why the problems are being brought up a year after the sale. Are we not checking for EXISTING conditions? I can see on the electrical not being grounded as an existing condition, but who knows what the buyer was stuffing down the drains for the past year!

It's no wonder the buyer couldn't find a lawyer to take his case, he didn't have one.

I agree, the article really does not have any basis. If the house were inspected based on the proposed Senate bill, only half the house would have been inspected.

Licensed or not, most NH inspectors do a fair job, it is just a matter of what goes wrong and when, and then who do you blame (a year later), the Home Inspector of course, it wouldn't matter if we were licensed or not.

It seems to me the article is saying not to use MA Licensed Home Inspectors, or at least don't use an inspector who inspects based on MA requirements. No offense Dave.



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Old 3/26/07, 8:43 PM
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You are always asked because, in your state, it would be illegal for you to operate without one. You are not asked because your client has a choice and picks "licensed" over "unlicensed".

We need to help you guys in Texas get free of the real estate agents that control you. Let's get those stupid licensing laws repealed.

Of course it would be illegal. That is not my point. The point is that if there were not licensing then an unlicensed person could simple say that. "Joe" buyer alot of times just wants to know you are licensed. Just like I want to know my dentist has a diploma.
I like licensing because it limits the nbr of people and helps to raise the bar on the industry. The agents do not control us. That is ludicrous.

Why do you have a problem with licensing? It does not at all bother you that anyone with a flashlight, binoculars, and a note pad could be an inspector in your state? Sure would bother me.



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