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Old 2/27/10, 11:45 PM
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Hello everyone,

OK theres 2 foot of snow on the roof, 4 foot snow drifts around the perimeter and on the decks, the ground is frozen 12 inches deep (septic system), the driveway isn't plowed (have to park on street). Needless to say the exterior inspection in general is almost impossible. The client wants to know what I'm going to do about it and if I can't inspect these areas why do they have to pay the full price. Aside from buying a plane ticket and head South, what would YOU do? AHHHHH Life in the Pocono's!

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Old 2/27/10, 11:57 PM
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What did you do?
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Old 2/28/10, 12:02 AM
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Just explain that in your area inspections can be limited due to weather. this is not your fault or your clients fault it is a naturally occurring event which you have no control over. Explain that you will do your best with the situation and provide the best report possible.



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Old 2/28/10, 12:20 AM
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What did you do?

I bought the plane ticket

Seriously, I did what I could and explained that I have no control over Mother Nature. That didn't quite cut it with this particular client. I refunded half of the inspection cost (just to shut her up) and suggested that maybe they should wait until the weather improves before purchasing the house. Of course that didn't over very well with the agent. OOOOOPS
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Old 2/28/10, 12:55 AM
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Make sure you take a PIC of anything that restricts your inspections.



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Old 2/28/10, 1:07 AM
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Never been a problem here. People understand weather. Poconos? Client should get a clue. 1/2 the inspection was way too much. I might have given her a Starbucks coupon. I bet the inspection took almost the same amount of time. I won't walk a roof in the rain either. Should I reduce my price due to rain????



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Old 2/28/10, 8:06 AM
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Never been a problem here. People understand weather. Poconos? Client should get a clue. 1/2 the inspection was way too much. I might have given her a Starbucks coupon. I bet the inspection took almost the same amount of time. I won't walk a roof in the rain either. Should I reduce my price due to rain????
Well at least you can put up a ladder and see a roof in the rain. I couldn't see the roof, the decking, the foundation, the grading, the septic inspection was out of the question. On top of that the client was the nervous type. I wanted to give her one of my Xanax. Instead I took 2. I have 2 inspections today. I took the snowshoes off of the wall and dusted them off. They work great by the way! Should be an interesting day!!! My wife wonders why I come home grumpy.
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Old 2/28/10, 9:52 AM
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You should have explained prior to the inspection that your inspection is a visual, non-invasive inspection. And that there are limits to what you can see. Some of those are because of finished interiors, some of those are owner belongings, and some of them are because of nature.

After the fact, I would have told her the same thing. My fees are not based on what I can or can not see, or what I do or do not have access to. She hired me to do a non invasive inspection, and I have done that to the best of my ability based on the limits at the time of the inspection. I would have also told her that when the snow melts, or when someone cleans the snow off, I would be happy to return at a reduced cost to reinspect the exterior.



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Old 2/28/10, 10:19 AM
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You probably did the right thing , Maybe not half price though. some people just do not have a clue. As Nick said take lots of pictures of restricted area's , Keep them because if she was like that you will be getting a call back. Perhaps mention when weather clears you will come back for a fee to inspect the outside.
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I do not think I would have refunded any of it. If, as a consumer, you don't understand that certain types of weather are going to affect your inspection, you are lost. Obviously if there is that much snow, there will be some restriction, no fault of the client or the inspector. Why refund the money, you are still there spending your time doing as thorough of an inspection as you can. This should have been shot down on the initial phone call and it wouldn't have been a problem.



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Old 2/28/10, 11:58 AM
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I had a similar situation yesterday with a client who was very understanding. I couldn't look at their roof or their deck due to snow and an exterior assessment was minimal. Based upon them being so understanding, I told them I would come back when the snow melted and look these items over. I also explained that it wouldn't be part of the report, that the current limitations still stood. The client and the agent were very appreciative.

If they were not as understanding as your client was, I would definetly tell her to accept the inspection as is, or re-schedule. If that didn't work, she would have to get another inspector. Maybe the $75.00 guaranteed guy!

You cannot change your business practices and get the reputation that comes with it for one inspection. Every time there is some form of inclement weather or situation arises that you cannot inspect something, people will have their hand out for a discount.
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Old 2/28/10, 12:56 PM
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Offer to perform the inspection and report writing time on an per hour basis, at $125.00 p/hr if they think it will be cheaper without the exterior. Me'thinks it will cost the same, or more!!!
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Old 2/28/10, 1:52 PM
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It takes me the same amount of time to do the exterior inspection in winter, maybe even longer. I have a small shovel I use to dig around a few areas. Like digging around the A/C unit, sub surface drainage leaders, steps.

I charge the same summer or winter. Most clients understand.
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Old 2/28/10, 2:12 PM
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Ditto...

And just because the exterior is partialy hidden, doesn't mean I don't look twice as hard at the interior.

Just because a Doctor can't see your heart, doesn't mean he can't diagnose a problem. And he sure as hell isn't gonna charge you any less!
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Ditto...

And just because the exterior is partialy hidden, doesn't mean I don't look twice as hard at the interior.

Just because a Doctor can't see your heart, doesn't mean he can't diagnose a problem. And he sure as hell isn't gonna charge you any less!
Exactly, you have to be even more diligent in interior areas that are affected by what you can't see outside, so in these cases, the inspection may take longer, not less time. Good points Jeff and David.



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