InterNACHI


Go Back   InterNACHI Message Board > General > Misc. Discussion

Notices

Misc. Discussion Discuss whatever you wish in this forum.

View Poll Results: Do you agree or disagree with the article's depiction of the market?
Agree 4 36.36%
Disagree 7 63.64%
Voters: 11. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 8/21/09, 3:32 PM
James H. Bushart's Avatar
James H. Bushart James H. Bushart is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Cassville, MO
Posts: 15,020
Default Agree or Disagree

July home sales surge more than 7 percent

By ALAN ZIBEL, AP Real Estate Writer Alan Zibel, Ap Real Estate Writer 1 hr 13 mins ago

WASHINGTON – The U.S. housing market is rebounding faster than expected. The question is, can it last? Home resales in July posted the largest monthly increase in at least 10 years as first-time buyers rushed to take advantage of a tax credit that expires Nov. 30. Sales jumped 7.2 percent and beat expectations, the National Association of Realtors said Friday.
"We've got tens of thousands of homes perfect for the first-time homebuyer and we've taken advantage of that," said George Hackett, president of Coldwell Banker Real Estate in Pittsburgh.
Sales hit a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 5.24 million in July, from a pace of 4.89 million in June. It was the fourth-straight monthly increase and the strongest month since August 2007. Sales had been expected to rise to an annual pace of 5 million, according to economists surveyed by Thomson Reuters.
The risks to that healthy pace, however, are job cuts, mortgage rates and the looming end to the homebuyer tax credit. And the last one could be a doozy because first-time buyers are snapping up one out of every three homes.
First-time buyers get a credit of 10 percent of the purchase price of a home, up to $8,000. The credit phases out for singles earning more than $75,000 and couples earning more than $150,000. The real estate industry is lobbying to have the credit extended but its unclear if Congress will be swayed.
"I would not be at all surprised to see a dip at the end of the year once the tax credit expires," said Robert Dye, senior economist with PNC Financial Services Group.
The home sales report was another sign that the U.S. economy is on the verge of a long-awaited recovery after enduring a brutal recession and the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression.
Economic activity in both the U.S. and around the world appears to be leveling out and "the prospects for a return to growth in the near term appear good," Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said Friday.
But fallout from the recession will linger for some time. Unemployment rose in July in 26 states and fell in 17, the Labor Department said Friday. That is driving up foreclosures, which are not expected to level off until sometime next year.
Sales of foreclosures and other distressed properties made up about a third of all transactions last month, down from nearly half earlier this year. In places like San Diego and Orlando, buyers are snapping up foreclosed properties at deep discounts, and inventories are low.
Those sales helped drag down the national median sales price by 15 percent to $178,400.
Stephen Stoyko hunted off-and-on for two years before he bought a four-bedroom, two-story foreclosure this week for $320,000. The home in Roswell, Ga., north of Atlanta, was initially priced at $335,000.
Stoyko expects to spend about $7,000 to replace missing kitchen appliances and light fixtures — a cost will be at least partially offset by the first-time homebuyer tax credit. "It's bigger than I needed, but the price was right," he said.
The inventory of unsold homes on the market rose to 4.1 million, from 3.8 million a month earlier as buyers who had held their homes off the market in the past decided to list them for sale. That's a 9.4-month supply at the current sales pace, unchanged from June.
__
AP Real Estate Writers Adrian Sainz in Miami and J.W. Elphinstone in New York contributed to this report. AP Economics Writer Jeannine Aversa contributed reporting from Jackson Hole, Wyo.
Reply With Quote
Find an InterNACHI certified Colorado Home Inspector (and anywhere else in North America)
  #2  
Old 8/21/09, 3:37 PM
Michael Larson's Avatar
Michael Larson Michael Larson is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Hudson, WI including the Twin Cities of MN
Posts: 20,849
Default Re: Agree or Disagree

Of the current housing market - Yes

Of a recovering economy - No



"Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts."
Henry Rosovsky-Harvard

Michael Larson
Hudson, WI

Services provided in East MN and West WI
InspectraPro
or
Minnesota Home Inspector

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 8/21/09, 6:08 PM
Joseph A. Ferry's Avatar
Joseph A. Ferry Joseph A. Ferry is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 1,099
Default Re: Agree or Disagree

I think that the "first time buyer" credit and the "cash for clunkers" program violate the Equal Protection provisions of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments of the US Constitution.



Joseph A. Ferry, Esquire
Suite 200
Two Penn Center Plaza
Philadelphia, PA 19102

215-854-6444 tel.
215-243-8202 fax

Follow me on Twitter.

Email me. Don't send me a private message.

Seminars: www.inspectorce.com/seminar.htm

ClaimIntercept TM: www.eiipro.com
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 8/21/09, 7:46 PM
Kevin M. Leonard's Avatar
Kevin M. Leonard Kevin M. Leonard is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Fairfield, OH
Posts: 2,757
Default Re: Agree or Disagree

Got this today.

http://www2.cabr.org/files/JulyHomeSales.pdf



Kevin M. Leonard
The Ohio Home Inspections Company
513-895-7700

Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 8/21/09, 8:30 PM
Nick Gromicko's Avatar
Nick Gromicko Nick Gromicko is online now
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Valley Forge, PA
Posts: 21,062
Default Re: Agree or Disagree

Much of this is simply people trying to hedge against inflation. Spending is the smart thing to do (although I disagree with buying a home). Interest rates have to go up and the value of the dollar has to go down... so borrow and buy now. If you have cash or the ability to borrow, invest in raw land, gold bullion, and your business... today.

The advantage of investing in your inspection business now (and for most inspectors, "investing" means "marketing") is that your bed-wetting competitors are all curled up in the fetal position. Take their markets away from them!

Most of my business interests are related directly or indirectly to the housing market, and when it went to hell, I punched the gas pedal down and haven't let up yet. Same with InterNACHI: www.nachi.org/whats_new.htm



Nick Gromicko, CMI, CPI, IAC2, Infrared Certified
Founder, InterNACHI
"Just as iron sharpens iron, one man sharpens another." Proverbs 27:17

Last edited by gromicko; 8/21/09 at 8:37 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 8/21/09, 8:43 PM
Joseph A. Ferry's Avatar
Joseph A. Ferry Joseph A. Ferry is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 1,099
Default Re: Agree or Disagree

Quote:
Originally Posted by gromicko View Post
The advantage of investing in your inspection business now (and for most inspectors, "investing" means "marketing") is that your bed-wetting competitors are all curled up in the fetal position. Take their markets away from them!
Indeed!



Joseph A. Ferry, Esquire
Suite 200
Two Penn Center Plaza
Philadelphia, PA 19102

215-854-6444 tel.
215-243-8202 fax

Follow me on Twitter.

Email me. Don't send me a private message.

Seminars: www.inspectorce.com/seminar.htm

ClaimIntercept TM: www.eiipro.com
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 8/21/09, 8:43 PM
Wayne B. Wilson's Avatar
Wayne B. Wilson Wayne B. Wilson is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Powell, Tn
Posts: 3,193
Default Re: Agree or Disagree

Quote:
Originally Posted by jferry1 View Post
I think that the "first time buyer" credit and the "cash for clunkers" program violate the Equal Protection provisions of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments of the US Constitution.
How do you get that from the fourteenth Amendment?
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 8/21/09, 8:47 PM
Joseph A. Ferry's Avatar
Joseph A. Ferry Joseph A. Ferry is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 1,099
Default Re: Agree or Disagree

Quote:
Originally Posted by wwilson3 View Post
How do you get that from the fourteenth Amendment?
"No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."



Joseph A. Ferry, Esquire
Suite 200
Two Penn Center Plaza
Philadelphia, PA 19102

215-854-6444 tel.
215-243-8202 fax

Follow me on Twitter.

Email me. Don't send me a private message.

Seminars: www.inspectorce.com/seminar.htm

ClaimIntercept TM: www.eiipro.com
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 8/21/09, 9:19 PM
Wayne B. Wilson's Avatar
Wayne B. Wilson Wayne B. Wilson is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Powell, Tn
Posts: 3,193
Default Re: Agree or Disagree

So in plain Language ( you can type slow for us dummies) how would cash for clunkers and the first time tax credit do this Violation. Not being a smart *** i am just curious. and if it is why has no one approached it that way.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 8/22/09, 1:47 AM
Gary L. Farnsworth Gary L. Farnsworth is online now
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Olathe, KS
Posts: 1,413
Default Re: Agree or Disagree

Any government spending is paid by us, the taxpayers. More spending by Obama and his cronies, the more in taxes we will have to pay, sooner or later.

There is no way that 5.2 million homes sold for July. There is only an inventory of 4.1 million homes? Math is not correct. Perhaps that is a "adjusted" rate. Sounds like Obamanomics.

Last edited by gfarnsworth; 8/22/09 at 1:50 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 8/22/09, 4:05 PM
Joseph A. Ferry's Avatar
Joseph A. Ferry Joseph A. Ferry is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 1,099
Default Re: Agree or Disagree

Quote:
Originally Posted by wwilson3 View Post
How do you get that from the fourteenth Amendment?
It's right next to where it says that you can kill your full term baby with impunity.



Joseph A. Ferry, Esquire
Suite 200
Two Penn Center Plaza
Philadelphia, PA 19102

215-854-6444 tel.
215-243-8202 fax

Follow me on Twitter.

Email me. Don't send me a private message.

Seminars: www.inspectorce.com/seminar.htm

ClaimIntercept TM: www.eiipro.com
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 8/22/09, 5:43 PM
Wayne B. Wilson's Avatar
Wayne B. Wilson Wayne B. Wilson is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Powell, Tn
Posts: 3,193
Default Re: Agree or Disagree

Quote:
Originally Posted by jferry1 View Post
It's right next to where it says that you can kill your full term baby with impunity.
As i expected No answer to explain it. to us little guys . just put another smoke screen up. Very good indeed .
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 8/22/09, 10:26 PM
Nick Gromicko's Avatar
Nick Gromicko Nick Gromicko is online now
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Valley Forge, PA
Posts: 21,062
Default Re: Agree or Disagree

I don't see it as a violation of equal protection under the law, but it is a conflict of interest. Obama buys a bankrupt company with our money, then takes more of our money and uses it to bring in customers to his company. The clunkers and the consumers where just a way of making it not appear so bad and camouflaging the stupidity of his purchase of a portion of a bankrupt company for more than its historic market cap high (dumbest business move in all of human history).



Nick Gromicko, CMI, CPI, IAC2, Infrared Certified
Founder, InterNACHI
"Just as iron sharpens iron, one man sharpens another." Proverbs 27:17

Last edited by gromicko; 8/22/09 at 10:30 PM..
Reply With Quote
Find an InterNACHI certified Colorado Home Inspector (and anywhere else in North America)
  #14  
Old 8/23/09, 12:02 AM
Brian E. Kelly Brian E. Kelly is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 12,603
Default Re: Agree or Disagree

More signs of life in the Phoenix market



"Never ever threaten anyone in Camoflage"
Tim Wilson

Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 8/23/09, 6:25 AM
Kevin M. Leonard's Avatar
Kevin M. Leonard Kevin M. Leonard is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Fairfield, OH
Posts: 2,757
Default Re: Agree or Disagree

Last-minute clunker deals swamp auto dealers

"Our phones have been ringing off the hook," said a giddy Pete Richards, general manager of Ed Voyles Honda in Marietta, Georgia. "... It's been great. Phenomenal."

The program has generated so much traffic and new-car buzz that even non-qualifying and used car sales have jumped, Richards said.



Kevin M. Leonard
The Ohio Home Inspections Company
513-895-7700

Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Congratulations to PHPIO... Ontario's new home inspection association. gromicko Canadian Inspectors 60 10/22/08 8:07 PM
$$$$ Reward for information $$$$ gromicko General Inspection Discussion 58 6/12/08 7:53 AM
The ESOP ????? rcooke Canadian Inspectors 188 4/18/08 8:49 PM
If someone can get me CAHPI's and OAHI's I'll add them... gromicko Canadian Inspectors 72 4/7/08 7:39 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 3:35 PM.


Popular Sections

:

All Sections

Popular

Membership

Inspection Standards

Education

Chapters & Members

Articles & Links

Other Organizations

 

 

 

NACHI.ORG Statistics

 

 

no new posts